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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; SAINTS DEPTH CHART - Early, PreContact 53 Man Prediction OFFENSE QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees , 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram , 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller , ...
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06-21-2016, 07:43 AM | #361 |
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Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - Early, PreContact 53 Man Prediction
OFFENSE QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco FB (1) 35 - Austin Johnson WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 81 - Jordan Williams LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Ryker Mathews LG (2) 68 - Tim Lelito, 78 - Landon Turner C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 65 - Senio Kelemete RG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui SR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 83 - Willie Snead DEFENSE DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 93 - David Onyemata DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison DE (2) 98 - Bobby Richardson, 91 - Kasim Edebali SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti MLB (2) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson WLB (3) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 55 - Davis Tull LCB (3) 21 - Keenan Lewis, 25 - P.J. Williams, 20 - Brian Dixon FS (2) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell SS (3) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 41 - Roman Harper RCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 27 - Damian Swann KICKING K (1) 3 - Connor Barth P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher INJURED RESERVE LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford Projected Starter Reserve/Injured Reserve/Future/UDRFA Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 25, Defense - 25, Kicking - 3, Total Roster - 53 Note: * 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha hasn't been officially put on IR nor IR-To Return Couple of Things: Listed Davis Tull as a LB because I see his role in pass rush subpackages this season from the edge; while he's been a Line/Edge Backer, I could also see him developing into a quality MLB or even a WLB with his physical skill set... Once the game gets physical, I expect to see some surprises among the defensive backs; Byrd and Westbank are very vulnerable. Speaking of Oft-injured defenders, Ellerbe is another guy on shaky ground as Roberston may actually be better; that, plus 57 - Dillon Lee continuing to make plays when hitting starts could make that interesting. Can also possibly see a position change of sorts for Damian Swann to safety, making Harper expendable; then Kyle Williams makes the team or if a rookie like 49 - De’Vante Harris or 43 - Jimmy Pruitt can jump out and show good gunner skills. Can see the Saints making a Training Camp trade for another wide receiver; for now I have the receiver Williams because Payton will want some more size; Coleman is not a lock to make this roster. Richardson and Gwachum is a tossup, Saints want pass rush more than rush defense and Richardson offers nothing in the pass rush; when the contact starts my eyes will first be on Gwachum; on second thought, Richardson does a good job of sealing the edge and Edebali could rotate in on third and long so that'd work... Saints have really brought in quality depth and player flexibility at critical positions (e.g. Cornerback, Edge Defender, 3T Tackle) as injuries are an inevitable part training camp Landon Turner or 79 - Joseph Cheek will be the eighth offensive lineman; tossup here that could go either way; Joe Cheek may need a couple of seasons, but like Ryker Mathews, both are future NFL starters... Really liked the Saints brought back 96 - Lawrence Virgil as both he or 96 - Ashaad Mabry could make Jenkins expendable a year early; expect one or both to get a "Redshirt" Season as the Saints ride out Jenkins this season... |
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06-21-2016, 09:57 AM | #363 |
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06-22-2016, 08:22 AM | #365 |
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06-24-2016, 08:32 PM | #366 |
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre
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Yeah, and I don't know that Coleman offers enough in the way of the kicking game to be a lock for a roster spot...
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06-24-2016, 08:40 PM | #367 |
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Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 June OTAs
OFFENSE QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco FB (1) 35 - Austin Johnson, 39 - Sione Houma WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 12 - Kyle Prater LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Ryker Mathews, 79 - Joseph Cheek LG (2) 65 - Senio Kelemete, 68 - Tim Lelito, 78 - Landon Turner C (1) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry RG (2) 75 - Andrus Peat, 62 - Cyril Lemon, 71 - Kaleb Eulls RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 74 - Tyrus Thompson, 67 - Avery Young TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 88 - RaShaun Allen, 80 - Jack Tabb, 86 - Chris Manhertz SR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 83 - Willie Snead, 14 - R.J. Harris, 11 - Reggie Bell, 87 - TommyLee Lewis, 19 - Jake Lampmann DEFENSE DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson, 77 - D.J. Pettway NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 96 - Lawrence Virgil DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata LEO (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull, *44 - Hau'oli Kikaha WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 97 - Tony Steward MLB (3) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer SLB (2) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti, 57 - Dillon Lee RCB (3) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 27 - Damian Swann, 29 - Tony Carter, 49 - De’Vante Harris SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 41 - Roman Harper FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 26 - Trae Elston, 42 - Alden Darby LCB (2) 21 - Keenan Lewis, 25 - P.J. Williams, 20 - Brian Dixon, 37 - Brandon Dixon, 46 - Ken Crawley, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt KICKING K (1) 5 - Kai Forbath, 3 - Connor Barth P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 45 - Garrett Griffin RESERVE/INJURED FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75) CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75) DE 76 - 76 - Mitchell Loewen (NFIN) Projected Starter Reserve/Injured Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 44, Defense - 41, Kicking - 5, Total Roster - 90 Note: * 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha hasn't been officially put on IR nor IR-To Return |
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06-25-2016, 11:17 PM | #368 |
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Saints Announce Roster Moves
Posted Jun 24, 2016 By NewOrleansSaints.com The Saints announced that they have placed CB Kyle Wilson on the reserve/injured list and have signed DT C.J. Wilson The New Orleans Saints announced today that they have placed CB Kyle Wilson on the reserve/injured list and have signed DT C.J. Wilson. The announcements were made by Saints’ Executive Vice President/General Manager Mickey Loomis. Wilson, 6-3, 290, comes to New Orleans after splitting the 2015 season between the Oakland Raiders and Detroit Lions. He opened the year appearing in four games with one start for the Raiders and recorded five tackles (two solo). In eight games for Detroit, he posted eight tackles (six solo) and one sack. Originally a seventh round choice (230th overall) of the Green Bay Packers in the 2010 NFL Draft out of East Carolina, the Belhaven, N.C. native has played in 78 career games with 19 starts over six seasons with the Packers, Raiders and Lions, accumulating 150 tackles (84 solo), 6.5 sacks for a total loss of 27 yards, one pass defensed and one fumble recovery. The East Carolina standout appeared in eight postseason games with three starts for the Packers from 2010-2013, recording 24 tackles (14 solo) and one sack, and was part of Green Bay’s Super Bowl XLV championship team. Source: NewOrleansSaints.com - Saints Announce Roster Moves Comment: This was what I was referring; we don't need four (4) standouts on the defensive line; we need a healthy rotation of seven-eight defensive linemen and to just keep bringing the heat by keeping the horses fresh through four (4) quarters... |
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06-26-2016, 08:52 AM | #369 |
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Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 Pre-Training Camp ***UPDATED***
DEFENSIVE LINE DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson/98 - C.J. Wilson, 77 - D.J. Pettway NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 96 - Lawrence Virgil DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 93 - David Onyemata LEO (3) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 55 - Davis Tull, *44 - Hau'oli Kikaha Projected Starter Reserve/Injured Reserve/Future/UDRFA Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports Figure on Saints keeping between eight (8), maybe nine (9) defensive linemen on the final (53) intial roster... [B]Early Rankings of our defensive line would be:
Defensive Linemen to watch who're likely to move up: 55 - Davis Tull 96 - Ashaad Mabry 93 - David Onyemata Notes/Observations: *44 - Hau'oli Kikaha is likely lost for most, if not the entire season due to a third lifetime knee injury; he would have been ranked third (3rd) What will be key is keeping the horses fresh so that the Saints can generate a pass rush with four (4) down linemen... A unit strength that pops out is that many individual players do have versatility (e.g. 94 - Cameron Jordan, 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 95 - Tyeler Davison & 93 - David Onyemata)... Of course while having that flexibility will be a plus from week to week, it'll put the onus on D.A. to find best possible match ups... While Davis Tull was a DE in college and is ideally suited as a 3-4 OLB in the NFL, he could still be shifted to backup Anthony at the SAM... It seemed early on that the base defense would be a mimic of Seattle's 4-3 under as this scheme would get the top front seven players on the field at one time... ...now with the Kikaha injury, we may see a more traditional 4-3 where you'd have a four-man DE rotation of Jordan, Richardson/Wilson, Edebali and Onyemata and a four-man DT rotation of Fairley, Rankins, Jenkins and Davison... DE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 93 - David Onyemata NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins DE (3) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 98 - Bobby Richardson/98 - C.J. Wilson That being the case, if a tremendous impression is made by Tull, Gwachum and/or Pettway, you could see as many as nine (9) defensive linemen make the roster... Provided there are no more (nevermind)... Despite the unfortunate, devastating news of the Kikaha injury (God Be With Him), I believe this can be the most improved unit for the team on the talent infusion alone; still would have liked a new defensive line coach... |
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06-26-2016, 09:16 AM | #370 |
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Make no mistake, the Saints are doing everything they can to make sure they have a consistent rush with the base four up front on the defensive line...
Defensive Line Battles Nose Tackle - John Jenkins, Tyeler Davison, Ashaad Mabry, Lawrence Virgil Jenkins, last year of rookie contract will be pushed and will be expendable if Mabry and/or Lawrence can be an able backup; Davison better not sleep either as that back two on this list have the size and hunger to make it happen... Defensive Tackle - Nick Fairley, Sheldon Rankins, David Onyemata This will be more of a battle of 1 and 1A, Saints did a great job of setting this up to bring Rankins along in the NFL; Onyemata can play along the DL so there will be flexibility for him making the team so Payton can justify the move to select him... Defensive End - Cam Jordan, Kasim Edebali, Bobby Richardson, C.J. Wilson, Obum Gwachum, Davis Tull, David Onyemata, D.J. Pettway May see as many as five from this group make the 53 man roster; C.J. Wilson vs Bobby Richardson, Davis Tull vs Obum Gwachum, David Onyemata vs D.J. Pettway will be some good battles in camp... What really will make this a puzzle is that the onus will be on the one-dimensional players like John Jenkins, Tyeler Davison, Ashaad Mabry, Lawrence Virgil, Davis Tull, Obum Gwachum, D.J. Pettway to have outstanding camps as players like Nick Fairley, Sheldon Rankins, C.J. Wilson, Bobby Richardson can move inside and out for matchups, injuries et cetera will have an advantage make the roster... |
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