2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook

jeanpierre · 07-22-2016, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

JP I hear you brother but let's give our new draft pick Michael Thomas a chance. He is a big target , high football IQ and came from a solid program w/good coaches. Michael didn't get the "hype" because OSU isn't a pass first program (very conservative) like Ole Miss and Mr. Treadwell was...With proper coaching, he will become a serious red zone target. The potential is there but I'll be surprised if Michael Thomas doesn't turn into a solid pro.

Considered Treadwell more of a sure thing than Thomas; but the thinking was right - got to get Drew those big athletic buckets to dump the ball in; again, I like Thomas and he was great value where selected, just considered Treadwell more of a sure thing in the Payton offense...

Originally Posted by K Major

Side note - Fleener is going to ball out of control with Brees .

Just don't share the optimism with regards to Fleener and am hoping that he gets to the Saints and shows he's tougher both in showing up every week and winning contested passes...

jeanpierre · 07-22-2016, 10:39 AM

SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 July PreCamp

OFFENSE

QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson

RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco

FB (1) 35 - Austin Johnson, 39 - Sione Houma

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 12 - Kyle Prater

LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Ryker Mathews, 79 - Joseph Cheek

LG (2) 68 - Tim Lelito, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 78 - Landon Turner

C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry

RG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat, 62 - Cyril Lemon, 71 - Kaleb Eulls

RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 74 - Tyrus Thompson, 67 - Avery Young

TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 88 - RaShaun Allen, 86 - Chris Manhertz

SR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 83 - Willie Snead, 14 - R.J. Harris, 11 - Reggie Bell, 87 - TommyLee Lewis, 19 - Jake Lampmann

DEFENSE

WDE (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 63 - Darryl Tapp, 77 - D.J. Pettway, *44 - Hau'oli Kikaha

NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 76 - Lawrence Virgil

DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 69 - C.J. Wilson

SDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson, 93 - David Onyemata

WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 97 - Tony Steward

MLB (2) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer

SLB (3) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti, 55 - Davis Tull, 57 - Dillon Lee

RCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 27 - Damian Swann, 29 - Tony Carter, 46 - Ken Crawley, 49 - De’Vante Harris

FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 26 - Trae Elston, 42 - Alden Darby

SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 41 - Roman Harper

LCB (3) 21 - Keenan Lewis, 25 - P.J. Williams, 20 - Brian Dixon, 37 - Brandon Dixon, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt

KICKING

K (1) 5 - Kai Forbath, 3 - Connor Barth

P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead

LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 45 - Garrett Griffin

RESERVE/INJURED

FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75)

CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75)

DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen (NFIN)

*LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha hasn't been officially designated IR nor IR-To Return

Projected Starter

Reserve/Injured

Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future

Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports

Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 43, Defense - 42, Kicking - 5, Total Roster - 90

jeanpierre · 07-22-2016, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

To early to tell just yet. I am waiting to see
Who mans the slot?
Who will step up and help Cook get free?
Still waiting to see if the individual parts are better the whole?
Is Cook handicapped with this group yet again?

WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 12 - Kyle Prater

WR (2) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead, Shane Wynn, Reggie Bell, R.J. Harris

Michael Thomas - I was not jumping up and down with the pick but I understand it and hope that the screwed up QB system at OSU was the issue that caused some of my concerns about his play. Route tree and press coverage are my main concerns, Eric Murray shut him down even giving up 4 inches. Feeling optimistic though and will sit back and give this kid the time he needs to develop.

Brandin Cooks I still have as a SP toy. They did not add enough speed to free him up IMO so as Thomas goes so does Cook.

Willie Snead - Is a pleasant surprise and hope for more improvement

Brandon Coleman - Can Brandon take another step in his game? Needs to improvement in running the route tree.

After that I have not seen a enough of the players to pass judgement.

21 is pretty honest and maybe a little generous. not by much though

Thomas has the raw ability to be a good No. 1 for this offense; may need to thing about bringing in a veteran or two (e.g. Boldin, Hartline) to transition...

Cooks doesn't need help to get open; he just needs to avoid being contained in space such as a 15 yd field in the red zone...

Snead is a great third complementary receiver and should really keep coverages from rolling up on Cooks or Thomas...

I'm not yet sold we have two other receivers on this roster that could give us the range and variety we need - wait and see...

Because of the aforementioned three, I'd prefer to bring in a vet or two to help the young ones with the other facets of the game...

K Major · 07-22-2016, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Because of the aforementioned three, I'd prefer to bring in a vet or two to help the young ones with the other facets of the game...

I think you have to. After Cooks and Snead ... dicey.

hagan714 · 07-24-2016, 10:39 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Cooks doesn't need help to get open; he just needs to avoid being contained in space such as a 15 yd field in the red zone...

If Cook had another WR that could take the top off the defense or at least be respected for that ability It would solve the problem of getting contained. He needs help. He is just too short to handle it by himself. Right now I do not see it on the roster.

The saints really do not do a good job of complement drafting or FA signings to max a players skill set.

jeanpierre · 07-25-2016, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

If Cook had another WR that could take the top off the defense or at least be respected for that ability It would solve the problem of getting contained. He needs help. He is just too short to handle it by himself. Right now I do not see it on the roster.

The saints really do not do a good job of complement drafting or FA signings to max a players skill set.

Hagan...Cooks is they guy that takes the top off the defense, we just needed to get the big bangers to replace Colston and Graham...

I preferred Treadwell, but will see what we got in Thomas now that it's real football, with real contact...

Still think we need more proven veterans for the WR corps and Boldin and Hartline are all that's left...

jeanpierre · 07-25-2016, 03:23 PM

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K Major · 07-25-2016, 03:26 PM

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07-22-2016, 10:36 AM	#441
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by K Major JP I hear you brother but let's give our new draft pick Michael Thomas a chance. He is a big target , high football IQ and came from a solid program w/good coaches. Michael didn't get the "hype" because OSU isn't a pass first program (very conservative) like Ole Miss and Mr. Treadwell was...With proper coaching, he will become a serious red zone target. The potential is there but I'll be surprised if Michael Thomas doesn't turn into a solid pro. Considered Treadwell more of a sure thing than Thomas; but the thinking was right - got to get Drew those big athletic buckets to dump the ball in; again, I like Thomas and he was great value where selected, just considered Treadwell more of a sure thing in the Payton offense... Originally Posted by K Major Side note - Fleener is going to ball out of control with Brees . Just don't share the optimism with regards to Fleener and am hoping that he gets to the Saints and shows he's tougher both in showing up every week and winning contested passes...

07-22-2016, 10:39 AM	#442
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook SAINTS DEPTH CHART - 2016 July PreCamp OFFENSE QB (3) 9 -Drew Brees, 7 - Luke McCown, 18 - Garrett Grayson RB (5) 22 - Mark Ingram, 34 - Tim Hightower, 28 - C.J. Spiller, 38 - Travaris Cadet, 23 - Marcus Murphy, 36 - Daniel Lasco FB (1) 35 - Austin Johnson, 39 - Sione Houma WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 12 - Kyle Prater LT (2) 72 - Terron Armstead, 70 - Ryker Mathews, 79 - Joseph Cheek LG (2) 68 - Tim Lelito, 65 - Senio Kelemete, 78 - Landon Turner C (2) 60 - Max Unger, 66 - Jack Allen, 61 - Marcus Henry RG (1) 75 - Andrus Peat, 62 - Cyril Lemon, 71 - Kaleb Eulls RT (1) 64 - Zach Strief, 74 - Tyrus Thompson, 67 - Avery Young TE (3) 82 - Coby Fleener, 89 - Josh Hill, 84 - Michael Hoomanawanui, 88 - RaShaun Allen, 86 - Chris Manhertz SR (2) 10 - Brandin Cooks, 83 - Willie Snead, 14 - R.J. Harris, 11 - Reggie Bell, 87 - TommyLee Lewis, 19 - Jake Lampmann DEFENSE WDE (2) 91 - Kasim Edebali, 58 - Obum Gwacham, 63 - Darryl Tapp, 77 - D.J. Pettway, 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha NT (2) 92 - John Jenkins, 95 - Tyeler Davison, 96 - Ashaad Mabry, 76 - Lawrence Virgil* DT (2) 90 - Nick Fairley, 99 - Sheldon Rankins, 69 - C.J. Wilson SDE (2) 94 - Cameron Jordan, 98 - Bobby Richardson, 93 - David Onyemata WLB (2) 59 - Dannell Ellerbe, 54 - Nate Stupar, 97 - Tony Steward MLB (2) 53 - James Laurinaitis, 52 - Craig Robertson, 51 - Jeff Schoettmer SLB (3) 50 - Stephone Anthony, 56 - Mike Mauti, 55 - Davis Tull, 57 - Dillon Lee RCB (2) 40 - Delvin Breaux, 27 - Damian Swann, 29 - Tony Carter, 46 - Ken Crawley, 49 - De’Vante Harris FS (3) 31 - Jairus Byrd, 48 - Vonn Bell, 26 - Trae Elston, 42 - Alden Darby SS (2) 32 - Kenny Vaccaro, 30 - Erik Harris, 41 - Roman Harper LCB (3) 21 - Keenan Lewis, 25 - P.J. Williams, 20 - Brian Dixon, 37 - Brandon Dixon, 43 - Jimmy Pruitt KICKING K (1) 5 - Kai Forbath, 3 - Connor Barth P (1) 6 - Thomas Morstead LS (1) 47 - Justin Drescher, 45 - Garrett Griffin RESERVE/INJURED FS 33 - Jamarca Sanford (Prior to Cut to 75) CB 24 - Kyle Wilson (Prior to Cut to 75) DE 76 - Mitchell Loewen (NFIN) LB 44 - Hau'oli Kikaha hasn't been officially designated IR nor IR-To Return Projected Starter* Reserve/Injured Draft Selection/UDRFA/Future Note: Jersey Numbers based on Nola.com, Twitter, and NewOrleansSaints.com Images and Reports Note: Roster Unit Nos.: Offense - 43, Defense - 42, Kicking - 5, Total Roster - 90
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07-22-2016, 02:53 PM	#443
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by hagan714 To early to tell just yet. I am waiting to see Who mans the slot? Who will step up and help Cook get free? Still waiting to see if the individual parts are better the whole? Is Cook handicapped with this group yet again? WR (3) 13 - Michael Thomas, 16 - Brandon Coleman, 15 - Vincent Brown, 81 - Jordan Williams, 85 - Jared Dangerfield, 12 - Kyle Prater WR (2) Brandin Cooks, Willie Snead, Shane Wynn, Reggie Bell, R.J. Harris Michael Thomas - I was not jumping up and down with the pick but I understand it and hope that the screwed up QB system at OSU was the issue that caused some of my concerns about his play. Route tree and press coverage are my main concerns, Eric Murray shut him down even giving up 4 inches. Feeling optimistic though and will sit back and give this kid the time he needs to develop. Brandin Cooks I still have as a SP toy. They did not add enough speed to free him up IMO so as Thomas goes so does Cook. Willie Snead - Is a pleasant surprise and hope for more improvement Brandon Coleman - Can Brandon take another step in his game? Needs to improvement in running the route tree. After that I have not seen a enough of the players to pass judgement. 21 is pretty honest and maybe a little generous. not by much though Thomas has the raw ability to be a good No. 1 for this offense; may need to thing about bringing in a veteran or two (e.g. Boldin, Hartline) to transition... Cooks doesn't need help to get open; he just needs to avoid being contained in space such as a 15 yd field in the red zone... Snead is a great third complementary receiver and should really keep coverages from rolling up on Cooks or Thomas... I'm not yet sold we have two other receivers on this roster that could give us the range and variety we need - wait and see... Because of the aforementioned three, I'd prefer to bring in a vet or two to help the young ones with the other facets of the game...
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07-22-2016, 04:39 PM	#444
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,619 Blog Entries: 3	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre Because of the aforementioned three, I'd prefer to bring in a vet or two to help the young ones with the other facets of the game... I think you have to. After Cooks and Snead ... dicey.

07-24-2016, 10:39 PM	#445
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by jeanpierre Cooks doesn't need help to get open; he just needs to avoid being contained in space such as a 15 yd field in the red zone... If Cook had another WR that could take the top off the defense or at least be respected for that ability It would solve the problem of getting contained. He needs help. He is just too short to handle it by himself. Right now I do not see it on the roster. The saints really do not do a good job of complement drafting or FA signings to max a players skill set.

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07-25-2016, 06:53 AM	#446
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook Originally Posted by hagan714 If Cook had another WR that could take the top off the defense or at least be respected for that ability It would solve the problem of getting contained. He needs help. He is just too short to handle it by himself. Right now I do not see it on the roster. The saints really do not do a good job of complement drafting or FA signings to max a players skill set. Hagan...Cooks is they guy that takes the top off the defense, we just needed to get the big bangers to replace Colston and Graham... I preferred Treadwell, but will see what we got in Thomas now that it's real football, with real contact... Still think we need more proven veterans for the WR corps and Boldin and Hartline are all that's left...

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