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jeanpierre 08-22-2016 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 713593)
I surely want be buying his jersey.

Personally, I don't wear other men's jerseys with exceptions when I was younger being Archie Manning, Ted Williams, Larry Bird, Pistol Pete and I've worn Steve Gleason's for a fundraiser; I put my name on my jersey and pick a number for that team...

But, I believe Vaccaro gets it together this season and am expecting him to finally fulfill his promise...

halloween 65 08-22-2016 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 713595)
Personally, I don't wear other men's jerseys with exceptions when I was younger being Archie Manning, Ted Williams, Larry Bird, Pistol Pete and I've worn Steve Gleason's for a fundraiser; I put my name on my jersey and pick a number for that team...

But, I believe Vaccaro gets it together this season and am expecting him to finally fulfill his promise...

I got to disagree with you here. Way to many boneheaded plays, bad angles, missed tackles for me. If memory serves me right I don't think the FO took a 5th year option out. I swear JP he reminds me of M. Jenkins at a different position. It took letting him leave to wake his a$$ up. The first year KV was here I thought we struck gold and not a thing to really speak of after that, nothing consistanly good that is.

jeanpierre 08-22-2016 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 713594)
I never really understood that pick? Not that I dislike him but a NT in my opionion needs to be a force. Just like a SS in the backfield?

Well Jenkins taking in the 2014 draft costing 2+ picks was to be the NT and we were to have a 3-4 made sense at the time...

You would've had a front line of DE Cam Jordan, NT John Jenkins & DE Akiem Hicks...

That's why we drafted 3-4 linebackers last season and had 3 of 4 LBers being added to Hawthorne...

You would've had OLB Hau'oli Kikaha, ILB David Hawthorne, ILB Stephone Anthony and OLB/Kasim Edebali/Davis Tull...

Only problem, we didn't have a defensive coordinator who could put it together cohesively, in a playbook that would be less reading than War & Peace...

Dennis Allen, taking charge, blew up the front seven for his 4-3 school of thought; that's why Jenkins, Tull and maybe Kikaha will eventually be expendable...

But D.A. has immediately shown results, and that's what counts...

The pathetic thing is that we've wasted the better part of 2+ drafts just to blow it up and reboot this season (though DA did start the transition last year)...

jeanpierre 08-22-2016 03:49 PM

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MarchingOn 08-22-2016 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 712835)
Sure would like to know the thought that went into those decisions...

https://twitter.com/JeffDuncan_/stat...77590394953728

Was disappointed to see us let Ty Walker go.

jjasso007 08-22-2016 07:12 PM

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QB: Brees, McCown, Grayson
RB: Ingram, Spiller, Hightower, Lasco
FB: Kuhn
WR: Cooks, Snead, Michael Thomas, Coleman, Tommylee Lewis
TE: Fleener, Hill, Hoomanawanni
OT: Armstead, Strief, Hills
OG: Peat, Landon Turner, Kelemete, Lelito
C: Unger, Jack Allen
DT: Fairley, Davison, Jenkins, Onyemata
DE: Jordan, Edebali, Gwacham, Richardson, Tull
WLB: Ellerbe, Stupar
MLB: Lauranitis, Robertson
SLB: Anthony, Mauti
CB: Breaux, Swann, Williams, DeVante Harris, Finnegan
SS: Vaccarro, Harper
FS: Byrd, Bell, Harris
K: Barth
P: Morestead
LS: Drescher

jeanpierre 08-23-2016 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jjasso007 (Post 713659)
QB: Brees, McCown, Grayson
RB: Ingram, Spiller, Hightower, Lasco
FB: Kuhn
WR: Cooks, Snead, Michael Thomas, Coleman, Tommylee Lewis
TE: Fleener, Hill, Hoomanawanni
OT: Armstead, Strief, Hills
OG: Peat, Landon Turner, Kelemete, Lelito
C: Unger, Jack Allen
DT: Fairley, Davison, Jenkins, Onyemata
DE: Jordan, Edebali, Gwacham, Richardson, Tull
WLB: Ellerbe, Stupar
MLB: Lauranitis, Robertson
SLB: Anthony, Mauti
CB: Breaux, Swann, Williams, DeVante Harris, Finnegan
SS: Vaccarro, Harper
FS: Byrd, Bell, Harris
K: Barth
P: Morestead
LS: Drescher

Like what you did Jasso, but I'd argue that CB Crawley is making the team and Turner, not so much; and I don't think Coleman is making the team either...

jeanpierre 08-23-2016 03:00 AM

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hagan714 08-23-2016 08:36 AM

Re: 2016 New Orleans Saints: Roster Outlook
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 713602)
Well Jenkins taking in the 2014 draft costing 2+ picks was to be the NT and we were to have a 3-4 made sense at the time...

You would've had a front line of DE Cam Jordan, NT John Jenkins & DE Akiem Hicks...

That's why we drafted 3-4 linebackers last season and had 3 of 4 LBers being added to Hawthorne...

You would've had OLB Hau'oli Kikaha, ILB David Hawthorne, ILB Stephone Anthony and OLB/Kasim Edebali/Davis Tull...

Only problem, we didn't have a defensive coordinator who could put it together cohesively, in a playbook that would be less reading than War & Peace...

Dennis Allen, taking charge, blew up the front seven for his 4-3 school of thought; that's why Jenkins, Tull and maybe Kikaha will eventually be expendable...

But D.A. has immediately shown results, and that's what counts...

The pathetic thing is that we've wasted the better part of 2+ drafts just to blow it up and reboot this season (though DA did start the transition last year)...

Jenkins as a 34 NT I never bought into. He was a big soft teddy bear in college with some flashes. So changing him into a nasty grizzle was never in the cards IMO.

But as a 43 NT that is possible. Starter? Year one he almost made me eat crow. So he might add some solid over paid for depth as a 43 NT.

Tull? not sure what to say about him right now

K Major 08-23-2016 08:45 AM

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Josh Hill's name rarely comes up in camp.


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