What exactly is the logic behind drafting Treadwell?

Danno · 03-06-2016, 09:43 AM

Either way, we need a WR badly. This is a bad draft for WR's.

We can't enter the season with our top 3 WR being Cooks, Snead and Coleman.

Cruize · 03-06-2016, 10:02 AM

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jeanpierre · 03-06-2016, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Either way, we need a WR badly. This is a bad draft for WR's.

We can't enter the season with our top 3 WR being Cooks, Snead and Coleman.

And an equally bad class of free agent wide receivers...

WillSaints81 · 03-06-2016, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Brees as a once in a generation type guy deserves the opportunity to go out on top. It's clear that a defense is needed to accomplish that.

There is no guarantee that Treadwell, or any other offensive skill player, can carry an offense without an elite QB.

He certainly would. But does that really justify making a BPA pick, especially with the marked disparity between the offensive and defensive production of this team?

Talented is one thing. Impactful or elite is another. That's why I'm asking are there elite defensive players in this draft that should be the focus of discussion?

And yet thread after thread has pictures of #1 from Ole Miss with the caption "We need to get this guy."

Really? Do we?

SFIAH

What if Cooks gets hurt? Then what?

hagan714 · 03-07-2016, 04:53 AM

WR draft is not as stellar as the past few but there are some solid prospects to be had on each day.

short list

Laquon Treadwell Ole Miss WR
Josh Doctson, WR TCU
Tyler Boyd WR Pittsburgh
Micheal Thomas WR Ohio state
Trevor Davis, WR California
Tajae Sharpe, WR, UMass
Cody Core WR Mississippi
Mike Thomas, WR, S. Miss
Mekale McKay WR Cicinatti

Dual threats RB/WR types

Ezekiel Elliott RB Ohio state
C.J. Prosise RB/WR Notre Dame
D.J. Foster RB/WR Arizona State

Now this is a very thin year for TE with blocking skills just case we face JJ Watt

Nick Vannett TE Ohio State

So early or late or even FA there is a way to help Drew out

clintonrebel · 03-07-2016, 08:12 AM

There will be unpolished gems available in the 3rd, 4th and 5th rounds or later. A guy like Cody Core at Ole Miss does not get a lot of attention because he was surrounded by people like Treadwell and Engram, but he will emerge as a solid NFL WR.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 03-07-2016, 09:36 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

What if Cooks gets hurt? Then what?

Next receiver up. Ask the same question: "What if Brees gets hurt?"

Are we going to spend 1st round pick on a QB because of that possibility?

I also want to spend a minute countering the argument that we cannot go into the season with Cooks, Snead, and Cooks as our top three receivers. Last year Cooks and Snead combined for nearly 2000 yards and 9 TDs. These are respectable numbers. Coleman contributed nearly another 500 yards and another 2 TDs.

I admit the open question is whether or not Coleman can pick up the slack left by Colston last year (45 catches, 520 yards, 4 TD).. But if those numbers are distributed between the receivers and the TE position (Watson's career 69 catches, 984 yards, and 3 TDs) Then there's no reason to think that the Saints traditional passing game isn't going to be productive.

Finally let us not forget that the most prolific and productive receivers the Saints has ever had was a 7th round pick 10 years ago. Also the Saints spent a #1 pick at WR just two years ago.

The only offensive position the Saints should consider spending a high draft pick on is guard. And even the highest rated guards in this draft have mid-2nd to 3rd round grades.

SFIAH

K Major · 03-07-2016, 09:55 AM

Dominate the line of scrimmage, dominate the game.

I'm sure you will be able to get very good "value" wide receivers and RB's in the second and third rounds of the draft.

Billings, A Robinson or Butler will be the Saints pick @ #12

.

Book it.

Boutte · 03-07-2016, 06:35 PM

We were 8th in scoring. If we were 3rd or 4th we'd have won the division. We've sucked at defense since the last century but we were a great team for about five years because we had the best offense in the league.

I'm not saying to totally give up on the D but not at the expense of the offense. That's just who Sean Payton is. Give him some toys and then sit back and enjoy the show. All this defense needs is to be not awful. A competent DC would give us that.

halloween 65 · 03-07-2016, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

WR draft is not as stellar as the past few but there are some solid prospects to be had on each day.

short list

Laquon Treadwell Ole Miss WR
Josh Doctson, WR TCU
Tyler Boyd WR Pittsburgh
Micheal Thomas WR Ohio state
Trevor Davis, WR California
Tajae Sharpe, WR, UMass
Cody Core WR Mississippi
Mike Thomas, WR, S. Miss
Mekale McKay WR Cicinatti

Dual threats RB/WR types

Ezekiel Elliott RB Ohio state
C.J. Prosise RB/WR Notre Dame
D.J. Foster RB/WR Arizona State

Now this is a very thin year for TE with blocking skills just case we face JJ Watt

Nick Vannett TE Ohio State

So early or late or even FA there is a way to help Drew out

I hope we do draft a TE. I also wouldn't mind seeing Sharpe in a Saints uniform. Sharpe has an unlimited ceiling and should be a day 1 starter.

03-06-2016, 09:43 AM	#41
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: What exactly is the logic behind drafting Treadwell? Either way, we need a WR badly. This is a bad draft for WR's. We can't enter the season with our top 3 WR being Cooks, Snead and Coleman. hagan714 and jeanpierre like this.

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: What exactly is the logic behind drafting Treadwell? Originally Posted by Danno Either way, we need a WR badly. This is a bad draft for WR's. We can't enter the season with our top 3 WR being Cooks, Snead and Coleman. And an equally bad class of free agent wide receivers... Danno likes this.

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WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: What exactly is the logic behind drafting Treadwell? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Brees as a once in a generation type guy deserves the opportunity to go out on top. It's clear that a defense is needed to accomplish that. There is no guarantee that Treadwell, or any other offensive skill player, can carry an offense without an elite QB. He certainly would. But does that really justify making a BPA pick, especially with the marked disparity between the offensive and defensive production of this team? Talented is one thing. Impactful or elite is another. That's why I'm asking are there elite defensive players in this draft that should be the focus of discussion? And yet thread after thread has pictures of #1 from Ole Miss with the caption "We need to get this guy." Really? Do we? SFIAH What if Cooks gets hurt? Then what?

03-07-2016, 04:53 AM	#45
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: What exactly is the logic behind drafting Treadwell? WR draft is not as stellar as the past few but there are some solid prospects to be had on each day. short list Laquon Treadwell Ole Miss WR Josh Doctson, WR TCU Tyler Boyd WR Pittsburgh Micheal Thomas WR Ohio state Trevor Davis, WR California Tajae Sharpe, WR, UMass Cody Core WR Mississippi Mike Thomas, WR, S. Miss Mekale McKay WR Cicinatti Dual threats RB/WR types Ezekiel Elliott RB Ohio state C.J. Prosise RB/WR Notre Dame D.J. Foster RB/WR Arizona State Now this is a very thin year for TE with blocking skills just case we face JJ Watt Nick Vannett TE Ohio State So early or late or even FA there is a way to help Drew out halloween 65 likes this.
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03-07-2016, 09:36 AM	#47
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: What exactly is the logic behind drafting Treadwell? Originally Posted by WillSaints81 What if Cooks gets hurt? Then what? Next receiver up. Ask the same question: "What if Brees gets hurt?" Are we going to spend 1st round pick on a QB because of that possibility? I also want to spend a minute countering the argument that we cannot go into the season with Cooks, Snead, and Cooks as our top three receivers. Last year Cooks and Snead combined for nearly 2000 yards and 9 TDs. These are respectable numbers. Coleman contributed nearly another 500 yards and another 2 TDs. I admit the open question is whether or not Coleman can pick up the slack left by Colston last year (45 catches, 520 yards, 4 TD).. But if those numbers are distributed between the receivers and the TE position (Watson's career 69 catches, 984 yards, and 3 TDs) Then there's no reason to think that the Saints traditional passing game isn't going to be productive. Finally let us not forget that the most prolific and productive receivers the Saints has ever had was a 7th round pick 10 years ago. Also the Saints spent a #1 pick at WR just two years ago. The only offensive position the Saints should consider spending a high draft pick on is guard. And even the highest rated guards in this draft have mid-2nd to 3rd round grades. SFIAH hagan714 likes this.
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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,589 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What exactly is the logic behind drafting Treadwell? Dominate the line of scrimmage, dominate the game. I'm sure you will be able to get very good "value" wide receivers and RB's in the second and third rounds of the draft. Billings, A Robinson or Butler will be the Saints pick @ #12 . Book it. hagan714 likes this.

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Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: What exactly is the logic behind drafting Treadwell? We were 8th in scoring. If we were 3rd or 4th we'd have won the division. We've sucked at defense since the last century but we were a great team for about five years because we had the best offense in the league. I'm not saying to totally give up on the D but not at the expense of the offense. That's just who Sean Payton is. Give him some toys and then sit back and enjoy the show. All this defense needs is to be not awful. A competent DC would give us that.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: What exactly is the logic behind drafting Treadwell? Originally Posted by hagan714 WR draft is not as stellar as the past few but there are some solid prospects to be had on each day. short list Laquon Treadwell Ole Miss WR Josh Doctson, WR TCU Tyler Boyd WR Pittsburgh Micheal Thomas WR Ohio state Trevor Davis, WR California Tajae Sharpe, WR, UMass Cody Core WR Mississippi Mike Thomas, WR, S. Miss Mekale McKay WR Cicinatti Dual threats RB/WR types Ezekiel Elliott RB Ohio state C.J. Prosise RB/WR Notre Dame D.J. Foster RB/WR Arizona State Now this is a very thin year for TE with blocking skills just case we face JJ Watt Nick Vannett TE Ohio State So early or late or even FA there is a way to help Drew out I hope we do draft a TE. I also wouldn't mind seeing Sharpe in a Saints uniform. Sharpe has an unlimited ceiling and should be a day 1 starter. hagan714 likes this.

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