What exactly is the logic behind drafting Treadwell?

Danno · 03-07-2016, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

We were 8th in scoring. If we were 3rd or 4th we'd have won the division. We've sucked at defense since the last century but we were a great team for about five years because we had the best offense in the league.

I'm not saying to totally give up on the D but not at the expense of the offense. That's just who Sean Payton is. Give him some toys and then sit back and enjoy the show. All this defense needs is to be not awful. A competent DC would give us that.

Exactly. We need some more talent, but the cupboard is not bare.

We will rue the day that we ignored offense this year.

WillSaints81 · 03-07-2016, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

Next receiver up. Ask the same question: "What if Brees gets hurt?"

Are we going to spend 1st round pick on a QB because of that possibility?

I also want to spend a minute countering the argument that we cannot go into the season with Cooks, Snead, and Cooks as our top three receivers. Last year Cooks and Snead combined for nearly 2000 yards and 9 TDs. These are respectable numbers. Coleman contributed nearly another 500 yards and another 2 TDs.

I admit the open question is whether or not Coleman can pick up the slack left by Colston last year (45 catches, 520 yards, 4 TD).. But if those numbers are distributed between the receivers and the TE position (Watson's career 69 catches, 984 yards, and 3 TDs) Then there's no reason to think that the Saints traditional passing game isn't going to be productive.

Finally let us not forget that the most prolific and productive receivers the Saints has ever had was a 7th round pick 10 years ago. Also the Saints spent a #1 pick at WR just two years ago.

The only offensive position the Saints should consider spending a high draft pick on is guard. And even the highest rated guards in this draft have mid-2nd to 3rd round grades.

SFIAH

You can't guarantee the offense can be as good if Cooks gets hurt. Because we sucked when Cooks went down in 14. I mean our oline was a problem all year long but that was the point where we really began to have even more problems. And this has not much to do with Colston, really. He wasn't getting enough snaps and targets to make an impact. But as someone said we don't improve defense at the expense of why Sean is here. Close games are not won by the same team every week and there is no defense for a perfect catch. We are not gonna stop Aaron Rodgers from making those last minute TD passes more than Arizona and Detroit did, who allowed one each last year. I don't want close games because of things like that. The thing is keep working on repairing the offense and plug some defensive holes each year.

And honestly scoring a lot of points last year in those games did not look easy, it had to be an effort because two of the games came off adjustments and not being able to score at will against the titans than the jets last year is a serious problem. Guards will help but by how much.

Either way we know SP is looking into the receiving anyway given the source report about M Thomas.

WillSaints81 · 03-07-2016, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Dominate the line of scrimmage, dominate the game.

I'm sure you will be able to get very good "value" wide receivers and RB's in the second and third rounds of the draft.

Billings, A Robinson or Butler will be the Saints pick @ #12 .

Book it.

NO to Billings. I just think he'll need developing. And if it was the defense he was on well that plays a role on experience. He hasn't played for a strong defense and we were the NFL's version of Baylor's defense. I saw so many plays he whiffed on on Draft Breakdown.

QBREES9 · 03-08-2016, 12:23 AM

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03-07-2016, 08:10 PM	#51
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: What exactly is the logic behind drafting Treadwell? Originally Posted by Boutte We were 8th in scoring. If we were 3rd or 4th we'd have won the division. We've sucked at defense since the last century but we were a great team for about five years because we had the best offense in the league. I'm not saying to totally give up on the D but not at the expense of the offense. That's just who Sean Payton is. Give him some toys and then sit back and enjoy the show. All this defense needs is to be not awful. A competent DC would give us that. Exactly. We need some more talent, but the cupboard is not bare. We will rue the day that we ignored offense this year. hagan714 likes this.

03-07-2016, 08:39 PM	#52
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: What exactly is the logic behind drafting Treadwell? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL Next receiver up. Ask the same question: "What if Brees gets hurt?" Are we going to spend 1st round pick on a QB because of that possibility? I also want to spend a minute countering the argument that we cannot go into the season with Cooks, Snead, and Cooks as our top three receivers. Last year Cooks and Snead combined for nearly 2000 yards and 9 TDs. These are respectable numbers. Coleman contributed nearly another 500 yards and another 2 TDs. I admit the open question is whether or not Coleman can pick up the slack left by Colston last year (45 catches, 520 yards, 4 TD).. But if those numbers are distributed between the receivers and the TE position (Watson's career 69 catches, 984 yards, and 3 TDs) Then there's no reason to think that the Saints traditional passing game isn't going to be productive. Finally let us not forget that the most prolific and productive receivers the Saints has ever had was a 7th round pick 10 years ago. Also the Saints spent a #1 pick at WR just two years ago. The only offensive position the Saints should consider spending a high draft pick on is guard. And even the highest rated guards in this draft have mid-2nd to 3rd round grades. SFIAH You can't guarantee the offense can be as good if Cooks gets hurt. Because we sucked when Cooks went down in 14. I mean our oline was a problem all year long but that was the point where we really began to have even more problems. And this has not much to do with Colston, really. He wasn't getting enough snaps and targets to make an impact. But as someone said we don't improve defense at the expense of why Sean is here. Close games are not won by the same team every week and there is no defense for a perfect catch. We are not gonna stop Aaron Rodgers from making those last minute TD passes more than Arizona and Detroit did, who allowed one each last year. I don't want close games because of things like that. The thing is keep working on repairing the offense and plug some defensive holes each year. And honestly scoring a lot of points last year in those games did not look easy, it had to be an effort because two of the games came off adjustments and not being able to score at will against the titans than the jets last year is a serious problem. Guards will help but by how much. Either way we know SP is looking into the receiving anyway given the source report about M Thomas.

03-07-2016, 08:43 PM	#53
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: What exactly is the logic behind drafting Treadwell? Originally Posted by K Major Dominate the line of scrimmage, dominate the game. I'm sure you will be able to get very good "value" wide receivers and RB's in the second and third rounds of the draft. Billings, A Robinson or Butler will be the Saints pick @ #12 . Book it. NO to Billings. I just think he'll need developing. And if it was the defense he was on well that plays a role on experience. He hasn't played for a strong defense and we were the NFL's version of Baylor's defense. I saw so many plays he whiffed on on Draft Breakdown. hagan714 likes this.

03-08-2016, 12:23 AM	#54
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,985	Re: What exactly is the logic behind drafting Treadwell? What ever is said here never really happens. hagan714 likes this.

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