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AsylumGuido 03-18-2016 08:38 PM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 696479)
How long does a negotiation take? The fact it's taken so long should tell you all you need to know......if he cannot decide he wants to play here, then just get lost. We don't need all this bribing and courting for him to sign.

Are you serious? The negotiations have most likely been over for quite some time. The final structure of the deal depends upon what what the club (Loomis) needs available in current and future periods. The deal has been done for quite some time.

Brees is under contract and has publicly declared he wants to restructure an extension.

I'm sorry but I am calling out your ass here.

The fact it's taken so long ...

... shows that it does not need to be finalized yet.

if he cannot decide he wants to play here, then just get lost.

If you can't decide to be a loyal fan either carry your ass to Atlanta or take a xanax.

We don't need all this bribing and courting for him to sign.

Um, where in the hell is the bribing and courting? Are you even capable of having a clue? Honestly. Sheesh!

Someone hold me back.

:rolleyes:

K Major 03-18-2016 09:31 PM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Drew Brees

WillSaints81 03-18-2016 09:44 PM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 696480)
Are you serious? The negotiations have most likely been over for quite some time. The final structure of the deal depends upon what what the club (Loomis) needs available in current and future periods. The deal has been done for quite some time.

Brees is under contract and has publicly declared he wants to restructure an extension.

I'm sorry but I am calling out your ass here.

The fact it's taken so long ...

... shows that it does not need to be finalized yet.

if he cannot decide he wants to play here, then just get lost.

If you can't decide to be a loyal fan either carry your ass to Atlanta or take a xanax.

We don't need all this bribing and courting for him to sign.

Um, where in the hell is the bribing and courting? Are you even capable of having a clue? Honestly. Sheesh!

Someone hold me back.

:rolleyes:

How about understand that the Jairus Byrd signing took half a day, and this has already taken a day and a half! How do you know he has already signed here? Who is your source? Do you work for the team? He was here last night. And nothing has been announced.

Did you think I was talking about Drew? I was talking about Fairley and I can say whatever the hell I want to say about some douchebag off the field who's been a past problem.

Now take your posts and your accounting degree and shove it down your throat because honestly you're not the poster I want information from.

K Major 03-18-2016 10:40 PM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 696456)
For those that are wanting Fairley as a Saint...there may be some good news...

Rumors on NF ...

NFL Rumors: Nick Fairley Leaving Los Angeles Rams For New Orleans Saints

RaginCajun83 03-18-2016 11:16 PM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
He hasn't signed yet so I hold on to hoping that he doesn't for now

RaginCajun83 03-18-2016 11:17 PM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
I just don't get all you that want Fairley on the Saints, he's no better than what they have at DT now just with added baggage

WillSaints81 03-18-2016 11:25 PM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Well that pseudo guido sure knew what he was talking about.

SloMotion 03-19-2016 06:24 AM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
So, is it official? Regardless of where you stand on this potential signing, at least you got a FO that goes out and tries to address deficincies during the offseason, #shrug.

I looked at a recent photo of Fairley in a St. Louis uni, and it actually looks like he lost some weight, so maybe DET not picking up his option did him some good, #shrug.

Not for the risk averse. I loved him coming out of college and actually thought he had more talent/moves than N-drama-kong. He immediately disappointed with his weight problems, lack of motivation, some off-field issues, some injury issues, inconsistent play & drawing flags at the worse times. You woulda' thought with his pass rushing ability and lining up next to Suh and his alleged "double/triple teams" on every play, Fairley woulda' recorded double-digit sacks at least once in his career, but he is who he is, #shrug. He has a little "Junior Galette" in him, so be careful what you wish for, :lol:.

Does this mean the Saints are going to the 4-3? I know nobody ever really runs a 4-3/3-4 anymore, but IDK if Fairley has ever played the nose tackle postition or if he's really suited for it. He had a decent year with St. Louis and he looks healthier, so maybe he's got his act together, #shrug.

He's a defensive tackle, and if nothing else, the Lions proved that spending big money on a postition that doesn't really impact the game that much, does not necessarily pay dividends, so if you got someone on the coaching staff who can babysit him, constantly motivate him & maybe stroke his ego, he might work out ... at the right price, of course, :).

I'd like to see him live up to his potential, a beast in college, he's still in his prime and when he's on his game, he gets to the QB, no "if's", "and's" or "but's" ... just getting him there always seemed the issue in DET ... maybe call St. Louis and see how they handled him, #shrug.

Good luck! :)

rezburna 03-19-2016 08:00 AM

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He's definitely better then anybody on our defensive line not named, Cam Jordan. Better yet, he'd probably be the 2nd best player on our entire defense.

Halo 03-19-2016 08:36 AM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
He may be good but when I hear of any NFL player who is overweight and or struggling with smoking dope, then New Orleans is a bad fit.

Without the right babysitter he could end up 500lbs and smoking rope for ages before he hits the field.

I hope he keeps it straight because the dude is a raw talent when he's lean and hungry - which is the problem.

|Mitch| 03-19-2016 08:51 AM

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If the rumors are true, nothing will be finalized until Drew's contract is restructured; I'm sure...

SmashMouth 03-19-2016 09:16 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 696493)

Quote:

If a deal with the New Orleans Saints cannot be secured, Nick Fairley would still have some options in the NFL, despite not playing anywhere near his massive potential. Reports have surfaced that the New York Jets and Philadelphia Eagles are both interested in signing Fairley. The Jets lost Damon Harrison to the New York Giants. They’re looking for a replacement. The Eagles lost Cedric Thorton to the Dallas Cowboys, so they’re looking at add depth to the defensive line.

Nick Fairley is receiving another chance in the NFL. There are only so many of those that go around, especially since there are players coming out of college every season. Fairley is hoping that the New Orleans Saints will be his final stop in the National Football League.

:popcorn:

rezburna 03-19-2016 09:18 AM

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I'm not worried about him smoking weed. You can find a plethora of weed in any major city the NFL has to offer. It wouldn't be any worse here.

SloMotion 03-19-2016 09:41 AM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 696509)
He's definitely better then anybody on our defensive line not named, Cam Jordan. Better yet, he'd probably be the 2nd best player on our entire defense.

Yeah, not to be a Saints-basher, but that ain't sayin' much, #shrug. If he's corrected some of his deficiencies, he's a great addition along with some of the other defensive FA signings. Which leads me to wonder why he was one & done with the Rams. The guy has all the potential in the world & I remember games where he just dominated, they're just few and far in-between. I'm just saying be cautious, the guy has not lived up to the status of a first round draft pick, even in two of his best years, :neutral:.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 696520)
I'm not worried about him smoking weed. You can find a plethora of weed in any major city the NFL has to offer. It wouldn't be any worse here.

I don't mind these guys smoking weed either in that there's nothing I can do about it, and it's not even an NFL city issue, #shrug. It's when they're derelict enough to get caught in consecutive weeks doing it, #shrug. You just gotta' wonder sometimes how bright some of these guys are and be a little concerned with what they'll be bringing to your team, :neutral:.

rezburna 03-19-2016 10:35 AM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 696523)
Yeah, not to be a Saints-basher, but that ain't sayin' much, #shrug. If he's corrected some of his deficiencies, he's a great addition along with some of the other defensive FA signings. Which leads me to wonder why he was one & done with the Rams. The guy has all the potential in the world & I remember games where he just dominated, they're just few and far in-between. I'm just saying be cautious, the guy has not lived up to the status of a first round draft pick, even in two of his best years, :neutral:.



I don't mind these guys smoking weed either in that there's nothing I can do about it, and it's not even an NFL city issue, #shrug. It's when they're derelict enough to get caught in consecutive weeks doing it, #shrug. You just gotta' wonder sometimes how bright some of these guys are and be a little concerned with what they'll be bringing to your team, :neutral:.

You're right. That definitely isn't saying much. I saw Cam Jordan tweet out he wants a DT in the 1st round. We've got to get that spot sured up soon.

And yeah, I don't know how some of them get caught so often. I know a large number of the league does it and never gets caught it.

brees84 03-19-2016 10:55 AM

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Drew extension -> signing Fairley -> trading for Wilkerson... I'd like these moves.

K Major 03-19-2016 11:15 AM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brees84 (Post 696526)
Drew extension -> signing Fairley -> trading for Wilkerson... I'd like these moves.

Not to side track the Fairley thread but ...

Agent: Wilkerson will be ready for start of season, somewhere | ProFootballTalk

Danno 03-19-2016 11:18 AM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Strange off-season.
I didn't really want Laurinaitus all that much, but I really want Fairley.

voodooido 03-19-2016 11:56 AM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 696480)
Are you serious? The negotiations have most likely been over for quite some time. The final structure of the deal depends upon what what the club (Loomis) needs available in current and future periods. The deal has been done for quite some time.

Brees is under contract and has publicly declared he wants to restructure an extension.

I'm sorry but I am calling out your ass here.

The fact it's taken so long ...

... shows that it does not need to be finalized yet.

if he cannot decide he wants to play here, then just get lost.

If you can't decide to be a loyal fan either carry your ass to Atlanta or take a xanax.

We don't need all this bribing and courting for him to sign.

Um, where in the hell is the bribing and courting? Are you even capable of having a clue? Honestly. Sheesh!

Someone hold me back.

:rolleyes:

Every post you make you ***** and moan about what someone says. How about you stop being a bully on this site. Because someone says something does not mean you have to comment. Sometimes it's better to keep things to yourself. Everyone is their own person and has their own thoughts on the process. And unless you work in the top offices of the Saints you have no clue either.

CheramieIII 03-19-2016 01:10 PM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Hey Guys and Gals I'm the residence bully here and always have been, just ask around. I've been dormant for a while but if you keep this **** up I'm going to let Caliente El Gato in Pantalone out it won't be pretty.

WhoDatFan26 03-19-2016 01:18 PM

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When is Drew signing this extension? That to me is the big hang up. I mean, before the season ended Drew said he wanted to sign an extension, Loomis said that he expects to get one signed, Coach Payton echoed the same sentiments yet we have no extension. Am I missing something here? Get this done. I mean we will have at least $30.00 million dollars in dead money fall off next off season. Get this done.

RaginCajun83 03-19-2016 01:39 PM

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AsylumGuido a bully

:broccoli::jester::party::roflmao:

voodooido 03-19-2016 01:42 PM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 (Post 696539)
When is Drew signing this extension? That to me is the big hang up. I mean, before the season ended Drew said he wanted to sign an extension, Loomis said that he expects to get one signed, Coach Payton echoed the same sentiments yet we have no extension. Am I missing something here? Get this done. I mean we will have at least $30.00 million dollars in dead money fall off next off season. Get this done.

Well, if I had to guess the hold up is with Drew. He saw Bradford get 18 million a year and Oswiler get 20 million a year. Drew is a top 2 QB. If he would settle for 20 this year they could give him 60 million over the next 2. All that dead money falling off would cover and then some over the next 2 years.

Seer1 03-19-2016 03:18 PM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CheramieIII (Post 696538)
Hey Guys and Gals I'm the residence bully here and always have been, just ask around. I've been dormant for a while but if you keep this **** up I'm going to let Caliente El Gato in Pantalone out it won't be pretty.

Hahaha! I don't even know which translation of Caliente El Gato en Pantelones to choose. I like'em all!

jeanpierre 03-19-2016 05:21 PM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Once the cap space is available, I wonder what Nick Fairley we'll get?!?

http://blackandgold.com/u/5271-albums162-picture897.jpg


Oh Nick, you, you

da tackle Kmajor needs, but

you say like da weed,

you say like da weed...

jeanpierre 03-19-2016 05:24 PM

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Do hope for those pulling for this deal, that the contract gets finalized soon and we see a lot of this during Fairley's tenure in a Saints uniform...

http://blackandgold.com/u/5271-albums162-picture898.jpg

|Mitch| 03-19-2016 05:38 PM

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Would be good for the team if Payton can keep him on the straight and narrow...

blackangold 03-19-2016 05:44 PM

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You have to consider that we just signed James Laurnitus (sp), this guy should be giving great insight to the type of player Nick is now.
Also, consider that Greg Williams could also be tapped on the shoulder to spill the beans on Nick... That being said, if we do sign the guy we should still be looking to take a DT in the first few rounds of the draft.

K Major 03-19-2016 06:29 PM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 696567)
Once the cap space is available, I wonder what Nick Fairley we'll get?!?

http://blackandgold.com/u/5271-albums162-picture897.jpg


Oh Nick, you, you

da tackle Kmajor needs, but

you say like da weed,

you say like da weed...


JP, that's cold!

Damn, never realized how much NF resembled Biz Markie.

SloMotion 03-20-2016 06:26 AM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 696571)
You have to consider that we just signed James Laurnitus (sp), this guy should be giving great insight to the type of player Nick is now.
Also, consider that Greg Williams could also be tapped on the shoulder to spill the beans on Nick... That being said, if we do sign the guy we should still be looking to take a DT in the first few rounds of the draft.

This is what I was thinking when I talk about motivating Fairley. Two of Fairley's best seasons were under Williams and Jim Schwartz, both of whom are a little out there, but great motivators. If you got someone like this on your staff, it may work out. If not, it's a crapshoot with him, IMO.

Taking a DT in the first few rounds remains a sound decision, :).

Seer1 03-20-2016 09:38 AM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SloMotion (Post 696589)
This is what I was thinking when I talk about motivating Fairley. Two of Fairley's best seasons were under Williams and Jim Schwartz, both of whom are a little out there, but great motivators. If you got someone like this on your staff, it may work out. If not, it's a crapshoot with him, IMO.

Taking a DT in the first few rounds remains a sound decision, :).

Yeah? Well, you know we don't. Our idea of having a motivating, "out there" type defensive coach is having them out there with another team...

SloMotion 03-20-2016 10:32 AM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 696596)
Yeah? Well, you know we don't. Our idea of having a motivating, "out there" type defensive coach is having them out there with another team...

:lol:, yeah, I know, I'm just trying to express an opinion in a non-trolling manner and still be somewhat optimistic in a situation that I honestly think has huge potential to be a "fail" ... but who knows? It might work out & if Fairley is going to be the force-to-reckon-with that I think he has yet to be, New Orleans is the second best team I'd like to see this happen at, :).

I just hope the Saints don't pay him too much and I'd really like to know the inside scoop as to why the Rams are willing to let him walk. Could it be the 0.5 sack and 18 tackles in 15 games he recorded last season? IDK, he's averaged 2-3 sacks a year/16 tackles a season, but if you take away 2012 & 2013, he's been god-awful for a first round draft pick.

But, like Rez pointed out, he's a big improvement over what the Saints have right now and if Cam Jordan wants a DT, this could be his guy and just might create an environment Fairley will thrive in, #shrug. Combined with a couple of the LB signings and stuff, I'd be pretty happy as a Saints fan because it's starting to look like you just might have a defense to compliment an always potent offense, :).

Like I said, I loved this guy coming out of college and hopefully whatever's kept him from reaching his full potential in the pros has been ironed out in DET/STL and he can be one of the top DL we all know he should be, :).

AsylumGuido 03-20-2016 11:17 AM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WillSaints81 (Post 696489)
How about understand that the Jairus Byrd signing took half a day, and this has already taken a day and a half! How do you know he has already signed here? Who is your source? Do you work for the team? He was here last night. And nothing has been announced.

Did you think I was talking about Drew? I was talking about Fairley and I can say whatever the hell I want to say about some douchebag off the field who's been a past problem.

Now take your posts and your accounting degree and shove it down your throat because honestly you're not the poster I want information from.

Yes, the timing of your post appeared to me that you were talking about Brees.

AsylumGuido 03-20-2016 11:21 AM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 (Post 696542)
AsylumGuido a bully

:broccoli::jester::party::roflmao:

Yup. That's me. I big time bully. LOL

AsylumGuido 03-20-2016 11:25 AM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 (Post 696539)
When is Drew signing this extension? That to me is the big hang up. I mean, before the season ended Drew said he wanted to sign an extension, Loomis said that he expects to get one signed, Coach Payton echoed the same sentiments yet we have no extension. Am I missing something here? Get this done. I mean we will have at least $30.00 million dollars in dead money fall off next off season. Get this done.

This is what I have been trying to point out. Yes, you, and others, are missing something. The best means of maximizing the cap is to wait to see what relief is needed using the Brees extension. By making the Brees extension too early Loomis is in danger of either pushing too much to future years, or too little. The parameters of the Brees deal will be dependent upon what is done in the remaining free agency and possible jockeying in the draft.

AsylumGuido 03-20-2016 11:29 AM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by voodooido (Post 696544)
Well, if I had to guess the hold up is with Drew. He saw Bradford get 18 million a year and Oswiler get 20 million a year. Drew is a top 2 QB. If he would settle for 20 this year they could give him 60 million over the next 2. All that dead money falling off would cover and then some over the next 2 years.

And you would be guessing wrong. I am expecting a deal right in line with Brady's. There is NO hold up. It doesn't make any sense to finalize an extension at this point. It would be totally counterproductive.

Seer1 03-20-2016 12:50 PM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Hey SloMo, a trolling manner (as opposed to motor) is just posting stuff to get under someone else's skin. Except, of course, if you're Asylum Guido.:-)

You're just trying to give an honest opinion. I'm thinking most of us on this board are older than middle school and can handle it.

K Major 03-20-2016 01:13 PM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 696596)
Yeah? Well, you know we don't. Our idea of having a motivating, "out there" type defensive coach is having them out there with another team...

Peter Gunta & Aaron Glenn (scrappy player back in the day) and of course Dennis Allen. We got rid of The Big Lebowski (Ryan) so things WILL improve.

More importantly we got a solid year of starting experience under their belts for Kikaha, Anthony and Breaux. Add the experience and intelligence of JLaurintus, possible acquire a solid interior DT (Fairley), then a STUD or two in the upcoming draft. Whew!!! Middle of the road D is all we need to make a push in the playoffs.

This team will be much improved on D ... or at least I think they will.

Trust and believe ;).

Seer1 03-20-2016 01:25 PM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
I totally love your attitude!

|Mitch| 03-20-2016 01:34 PM

Re: Nick Fairley in town
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 696621)
Peter Gunta & Aaron Glenn (scrappy player back in the day) and of course Dennis Allen. We got rid of The Big Lebowski (Ryan) so things WILL improve.

More importantly we got a solid year of starting experience under their belts for Kikaha, Anthony and Breaux. Add the experience and intelligence of JLaurintus, possible acquire a solid interior DT (Fairley), then a STUD or two in the upcoming draft. Whew!!! Middle of the road D is all we need to make a push in the playoffs.

This team will be much improved on D ... or at least I think they will.

Trust and believe ;).

Not to mention, that Browner is gone... He was one of the major reasons the defense could never get off the field. 3rd and long and it was an automatic throw in his direction


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