Saints coach Payton: 'I hate guns'

Euphoria · 04-12-2016, 06:21 AM

I am quickly turning the corner on gun control.

The amendment isn't being what it was designed for. It was suppose to protect the citizens from our own government. That has come and passed, you don't see citizens with air craft carriers and F-18's in their back yards?

The problem with so many guns on the streets is that some knuckle head pisses off another knuckle head and we have a gun fight in your neighbor hood where an innocent kid sleeping in bed gets shot or a traffic accident just pull out your gun and shoot someone in the back because you're pissed. This is what our country has come to. It isn't safe and its nothing to be proud of.

burningmetal · 04-12-2016, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I am quickly turning the corner on gun control.

The amendment isn't being what it was designed for. It was suppose to protect the citizens from our own government. That has come and passed, you don't see citizens with air craft carriers and F-18's in their back yards?

The problem with so many guns on the streets is that some knuckle head pisses off another knuckle head and we have a gun fight in your neighbor hood where an innocent kid sleeping in bed gets shot or a traffic accident just pull out your gun and shoot someone in the back because you're pissed. This is what our country has come to. It isn't safe and its nothing to be proud of.

There is no argument against the violence being committed. It IS senseless and tragic. But, in my opinion, it's a sign of the times and not of the means used to commit these crimes. Gun or no gun, why would you want to kill someone who's done nothing to you? If a person is that demented, what difference does it make if they have a gun, or a license to own one? I doubt most criminals have even bought a gun legally. They get it second hand, which renders stricter gun laws useless.

Most importantly, in terms of what you said about the right to own guns being meant to protect ourselves from our government... It has always been my belief that removing guns from the public so that we CANNOT defend ourselves from our government has been the mission of Big Brother. People aren't just going to give up their rights, so it takes a lot of public pressure to start the process of removing said rights.

We have more than enough military force to put an end to the border problem. But that stone would only kill one bird. Turning Americans against each other until they "force the hand" of the government, is a much better plan.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, and don't claim that this is absolute fact, but I fully believe it is a very real and present danger that many Americans are blind to. They won't even consider the possibility.

saintfan · 04-12-2016, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I am quickly turning the corner on gun control.

The amendment isn't being what it was designed for. It was suppose to protect the citizens from our own government. That has come and passed, you don't see citizens with air craft carriers and F-18's in their back yards?

The problem with so many guns on the streets is that some knuckle head pisses off another knuckle head and we have a gun fight in your neighbor hood where an innocent kid sleeping in bed gets shot or a traffic accident just pull out your gun and shoot someone in the back because you're pissed. This is what our country has come to. It isn't safe and its nothing to be proud of.

It isn't a gun problem. That's just what they spin. It isn't an amendment issue. It is working just as it should. It isn't just there to overthrow the government if ever necessary. It is also there to defend the country. Japan’s Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto is rumored to have said: "You cannot invade mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass."

Did he really say that? True or not I have no idea, but I wouldn't doubt it.

People with MENTAL HEALTH issues shouldn't own guns. It is the elephant in the room, only nobody can get a vote for saying it out loud so nobody does.

voodooido · 04-12-2016, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

I am quickly turning the corner on gun control.

The amendment isn't being what it was designed for. It was suppose to protect the citizens from our own government. That has come and passed, you don't see citizens with air craft carriers and F-18's in their back yards?

The problem with so many guns on the streets is that some knuckle head pisses off another knuckle head and we have a gun fight in your neighbor hood where an innocent kid sleeping in bed gets shot or a traffic accident just pull out your gun and shoot someone in the back because you're pissed. This is what our country has come to. It isn't safe and its nothing to be proud of.

The deaths by ILLEGAL guns out number legal guns 10-1. My gun has never killed someone. My car has never ran somone over and my fork did not make me fat. It's the person. Don't punish me for their crimes.

04-12-2016, 06:21 AM	#1
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints coach Payton: 'I hate guns' I am quickly turning the corner on gun control. The amendment isn't being what it was designed for. It was suppose to protect the citizens from our own government. That has come and passed, you don't see citizens with air craft carriers and F-18's in their back yards? The problem with so many guns on the streets is that some knuckle head pisses off another knuckle head and we have a gun fight in your neighbor hood where an innocent kid sleeping in bed gets shot or a traffic accident just pull out your gun and shoot someone in the back because you're pissed. This is what our country has come to. It isn't safe and its nothing to be proud of. canucksaint, neugey, RailBoss and 1 others like this.
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04-12-2016, 11:51 AM	#2
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints coach Payton: 'I hate guns' Originally Posted by Euphoria I am quickly turning the corner on gun control. The amendment isn't being what it was designed for. It was suppose to protect the citizens from our own government. That has come and passed, you don't see citizens with air craft carriers and F-18's in their back yards? The problem with so many guns on the streets is that some knuckle head pisses off another knuckle head and we have a gun fight in your neighbor hood where an innocent kid sleeping in bed gets shot or a traffic accident just pull out your gun and shoot someone in the back because you're pissed. This is what our country has come to. It isn't safe and its nothing to be proud of. There is no argument against the violence being committed. It IS senseless and tragic. But, in my opinion, it's a sign of the times and not of the means used to commit these crimes. Gun or no gun, why would you want to kill someone who's done nothing to you? If a person is that demented, what difference does it make if they have a gun, or a license to own one? I doubt most criminals have even bought a gun legally. They get it second hand, which renders stricter gun laws useless. Most importantly, in terms of what you said about the right to own guns being meant to protect ourselves from our government... It has always been my belief that removing guns from the public so that we CANNOT defend ourselves from our government has been the mission of Big Brother. People aren't just going to give up their rights, so it takes a lot of public pressure to start the process of removing said rights. We have more than enough military force to put an end to the border problem. But that stone would only kill one bird. Turning Americans against each other until they "force the hand" of the government, is a much better plan. I'm not a conspiracy theorist, and don't claim that this is absolute fact, but I fully believe it is a very real and present danger that many Americans are blind to. They won't even consider the possibility. hagan714 and frydaddy like this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

04-12-2016, 12:12 PM	#3
saintfan Donated Plasma Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 18,556 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Saints coach Payton: 'I hate guns' Originally Posted by Euphoria I am quickly turning the corner on gun control. The amendment isn't being what it was designed for. It was suppose to protect the citizens from our own government. That has come and passed, you don't see citizens with air craft carriers and F-18's in their back yards? The problem with so many guns on the streets is that some knuckle head pisses off another knuckle head and we have a gun fight in your neighbor hood where an innocent kid sleeping in bed gets shot or a traffic accident just pull out your gun and shoot someone in the back because you're pissed. This is what our country has come to. It isn't safe and its nothing to be proud of. It isn't a gun problem. That's just what they spin. It isn't an amendment issue. It is working just as it should. It isn't just there to overthrow the government if ever necessary. It is also there to defend the country. Japan’s Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto is rumored to have said: "You cannot invade mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass." Did he really say that? True or not I have no idea, but I wouldn't doubt it. People with MENTAL HEALTH issues shouldn't own guns. It is the elephant in the room, only nobody can get a vote for saying it out loud so nobody does. Danno, hagan714, WhoDat!656 and 2 others like this.
	C'mon Man...

04-12-2016, 12:56 PM	#4
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,842	Re: Saints coach Payton: 'I hate guns' Originally Posted by Euphoria I am quickly turning the corner on gun control. The amendment isn't being what it was designed for. It was suppose to protect the citizens from our own government. That has come and passed, you don't see citizens with air craft carriers and F-18's in their back yards? The problem with so many guns on the streets is that some knuckle head pisses off another knuckle head and we have a gun fight in your neighbor hood where an innocent kid sleeping in bed gets shot or a traffic accident just pull out your gun and shoot someone in the back because you're pissed. This is what our country has come to. It isn't safe and its nothing to be proud of. The deaths by ILLEGAL guns out number legal guns 10-1. My gun has never killed someone. My car has never ran somone over and my fork did not make me fat. It's the person. Don't punish me for their crimes. Danno likes this.
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