Underwhelmed

NonieT · 05-08-2016, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

watching top undrafted players and they just went through John Randle. He was about the same size as Rankins.

Yeah, and he was a holy terror.

burningmetal · 05-08-2016, 08:24 AM

It's no different from the constant racial issues that go on today, because you have those that want to judge white people based on what some bad people used to do.

I sure don't want to be judged by that. I'd rather people move on (not forget) from that and quit acting like someone did them wrong, accept that things are much different than they used to be, and learn to expect better instead of assuming I must be a racist. Not that every black person I meet treats me that way, because they don't, but we all know it happens more than it should.

That's not really a good comparison to football, either, but as long as we're going to turn this into a deep, heritage kind of discussion, I thought I'd throw that example in there.

Cruize · 05-08-2016, 08:44 AM

-Rankins is penciled in as a starter. We'll see. What worries me is all the "buzz" about the guy was from Senior Bowl drills and combine drills. Not about his actual play on the field.

-Thomas has the size and skills to translate well in the NFL. With a real QB like Brees, he could have a special year.

-Bell will contribute in coverage, which is much needed, and will be given a chance to be the everyday starter in the future. He's not very big and doesn't tackle especially well though.

-Onyemata is a big, strong, athlete. His limited experience in the game and lack of competition against equally talented guys is very concerning. The Saints took a flyer on defense in the 4th. With guys like DT's Billings and Reader, OG's Westerman and Drango, CB Hall, RB's Dixon and Booker, and QB Jones going afterwards, I think they could have done better.

-Lasco is very talented and fits the Saints scheme. But, if he sees the field this year, it will be because he was a steal or a lot of bad things happened to the RB corps. If offense was the direction, WR's Peake or Lawler were better choices in my opinion.

UDFA - There's lots of potential here. Allen and Turner are almost locks to make the team. I personally like Pettway, Elston, Harris, Houma, Dillon, Mathews, Tovell and Young.

Danno · 05-08-2016, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Cruize

-Rankins is penciled in as a starter. We'll see. What worries me is all the "buzz" about the guy was from Senior Bowl drills and combine drills. Not about his actual play on the field.

-Thomas has the size and skills to translate well in the NFL. With a real QB like Brees, he could have a special year.

-Bell will contribute in coverage, which is much needed, and will be given a chance to be the everyday starter in the future. He's not very big and doesn't tackle especially well though.

-Onyemata is a big, strong, athlete. His limited experience in the game and lack of competition against equally talented guys is very concerning. The Saints took a flyer on defense in the 4th. With guys like DT's Billings and Reader, OG's Westerman and Drango, CB Hall, RB's Dixon and Booker, and QB Jones going afterwards, I think they could have done better.

-Lasco is very talented and fits the Saints scheme. But, if he sees the field this year, it will be because he was a steal or a lot of bad things happened to the RB corps. If offense was the direction, WR's Peake or Lawler were better choices in my opinion.

UDFA - There's lots of potential here. Allen and Turner are almost locks to make the team. I personally like Pettway, Elston, Harris, Houma, Dillon, Mathews, Tovell and Young.

Good stuff but I disagree a tad on a couple of things. Over the last 2 years Rankins graded out better than every NCAA DT except for Aaron Donald. He didn't just show up on the radar after the Senior Bowl.

Oneyamata is a great risk/reward pick in the 4th. We desperately need front 7 help. Its possible that everyone else left at that point graded no better than what we already have at DE/DT. He may not be ready right away, but the payoff is worth the wait if he continues to develop as expected. We didn't just send scouts his pro-day. We sent our D-line coach, who stayed afterwards working with him, giving him tips, and getting to know what type of person he is.

And Lasco, from what I've read, can be a great special teams contributor as well as a weapon at back-up RB. He may be an upgrade to Murphy and might push Spiller for playing time.

WhoDatFan26 · 05-08-2016, 11:27 AM

Guys, our new draft picks will be fine!! Rankins will help our interior run and pass defense. Thomas will keep the offense humming at full potential, Bell will help the back 7 and Lasco will increase our special teams production. Stop being negative nancy's!! We rock The Black and Gold not the cowgirl silver.

AsylumGuido · 05-08-2016, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26

Guys, our new draft picks will be fine!! Rankins will help our interior run and pass defense. Thomas will keep the offense humming at full potential, Bell will help the back 7 and Lasco will increase our special teams production. Stop being negative nancy's!! We rock The Black and Gold not the cowgirl silver.

Amen!

Danno · 05-08-2016, 12:34 PM

They didn't draft the guy I wanted.

I hate it I hate it I hate it!

05-08-2016, 12:07 PM	#1
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Underwhelmed Originally Posted by spkb25 watching top undrafted players and they just went through John Randle. He was about the same size as Rankins. Yeah, and he was a holy terror.
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05-08-2016, 08:24 AM	#2
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Underwhelmed It's no different from the constant racial issues that go on today, because you have those that want to judge white people based on what some bad people used to do. I sure don't want to be judged by that. I'd rather people move on (not forget) from that and quit acting like someone did them wrong, accept that things are much different than they used to be, and learn to expect better instead of assuming I must be a racist. Not that every black person I meet treats me that way, because they don't, but we all know it happens more than it should. That's not really a good comparison to football, either, but as long as we're going to turn this into a deep, heritage kind of discussion, I thought I'd throw that example in there. Danno likes this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

05-08-2016, 08:44 AM	#3
Cruize 1000 Posts + Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 4,459	Re: Underwhelmed -Rankins is penciled in as a starter. We'll see. What worries me is all the "buzz" about the guy was from Senior Bowl drills and combine drills. Not about his actual play on the field. -Thomas has the size and skills to translate well in the NFL. With a real QB like Brees, he could have a special year. -Bell will contribute in coverage, which is much needed, and will be given a chance to be the everyday starter in the future. He's not very big and doesn't tackle especially well though. -Onyemata is a big, strong, athlete. His limited experience in the game and lack of competition against equally talented guys is very concerning. The Saints took a flyer on defense in the 4th. With guys like DT's Billings and Reader, OG's Westerman and Drango, CB Hall, RB's Dixon and Booker, and QB Jones going afterwards, I think they could have done better. -Lasco is very talented and fits the Saints scheme. But, if he sees the field this year, it will be because he was a steal or a lot of bad things happened to the RB corps. If offense was the direction, WR's Peake or Lawler were better choices in my opinion. UDFA - There's lots of potential here. Allen and Turner are almost locks to make the team. I personally like Pettway, Elston, Harris, Houma, Dillon, Mathews, Tovell and Young. Danno and MarchingOn like this.
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05-08-2016, 09:17 AM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: Underwhelmed Originally Posted by Cruize -Rankins is penciled in as a starter. We'll see. What worries me is all the "buzz" about the guy was from Senior Bowl drills and combine drills. Not about his actual play on the field. -Thomas has the size and skills to translate well in the NFL. With a real QB like Brees, he could have a special year. -Bell will contribute in coverage, which is much needed, and will be given a chance to be the everyday starter in the future. He's not very big and doesn't tackle especially well though. -Onyemata is a big, strong, athlete. His limited experience in the game and lack of competition against equally talented guys is very concerning. The Saints took a flyer on defense in the 4th. With guys like DT's Billings and Reader, OG's Westerman and Drango, CB Hall, RB's Dixon and Booker, and QB Jones going afterwards, I think they could have done better. -Lasco is very talented and fits the Saints scheme. But, if he sees the field this year, it will be because he was a steal or a lot of bad things happened to the RB corps. If offense was the direction, WR's Peake or Lawler were better choices in my opinion. UDFA - There's lots of potential here. Allen and Turner are almost locks to make the team. I personally like Pettway, Elston, Harris, Houma, Dillon, Mathews, Tovell and Young. Good stuff but I disagree a tad on a couple of things. Over the last 2 years Rankins graded out better than every NCAA DT except for Aaron Donald. He didn't just show up on the radar after the Senior Bowl. Oneyamata is a great risk/reward pick in the 4th. We desperately need front 7 help. Its possible that everyone else left at that point graded no better than what we already have at DE/DT. He may not be ready right away, but the payoff is worth the wait if he continues to develop as expected. We didn't just send scouts his pro-day. We sent our D-line coach, who stayed afterwards working with him, giving him tips, and getting to know what type of person he is. And Lasco, from what I've read, can be a great special teams contributor as well as a weapon at back-up RB. He may be an upgrade to Murphy and might push Spiller for playing time.

05-08-2016, 11:27 AM	#5
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05-08-2016, 11:29 AM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,574	Re: Underwhelmed Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 Guys, our new draft picks will be fine!! Rankins will help our interior run and pass defense. Thomas will keep the offense humming at full potential, Bell will help the back 7 and Lasco will increase our special teams production. Stop being negative nancy's!! We rock The Black and Gold not the cowgirl silver. Amen! WhoDatFan26 likes this.

05-08-2016, 12:34 PM	#7
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