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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by hagan714 No if I am hurt by the Rankins selection the player that would be is Laremy Tunsil who dropped into our laps and in my wildest dreams I never saw that coming. Reed was not even ...
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05-02-2016, 04:25 PM | #141 |
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Re: Underwhelmed
Originally Posted by hagan714
I get what you are saying we just differ on opinion. I know that I am not looking all the game film or talking to players coach's just like the vast majority are not. I never allow myself to get caught up in any particular player because we don't have a clue as to what the people making the decisions are thinking.
I can clearly see why we drafted who we did. I personally love the Rankins pick. I have seen enough and read enough to know it was a good pick. The WR was a NEED. I get that Reed would have been nice to pair with Rankins but we NEEDED a WR to make plays in the RZ. The coaching staff obviously felt like he was the BPA and I am ok with that. It fills a need and he has good upside. Now the DB pick was the one I wish we used to add the DL. I get the pick but I feel like we could have drafted a starter instead of a player who might rotate in. |
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My take on all this is simple, well not really. I'm not a scout but there are several sites and scouts and even some posters whose opinions and observations I respect.
When all have a similar view on a player then I generally accept that as either a valid strength or weakness. I also look at fit. If most are saying a player is a good fit for system A, but we run system B, then I don't think that player is a good fit for us. Like Power Blockers in a Zone Scheme, or man CB's in a zone scheme, or 3-4 OLB in a 4-3 front. Then measuarbles. Do players with similar measurables typically fail? Does a 4.9 sec LB really have a shot in coverage? What about the other stats? I look at short area quickness for O and D lines. 40 times are like tits on a bull for OG's and DT's, but that 10 yard split is very important. Arm lengths for CB's and DE's etc... CB's with T-Rex arms just ain't gonna cut it. Then character issues. Is he a jerk? Is he a diva? High football IQ? Work ethic? Then I also look at need. Was it a luxury pick? Can they help us now? Or will it take 2 or 3 years to develop? I don't like projects picked early but don't mind them late. Then there's value. Could that player have been picked a round or two later? Did we pass up a stud at a need position for a reach? |
05-02-2016, 05:17 PM | #143 |
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Re: Underwhelmed
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It impacts who we are, how we think, what we believe, how we interact with others, what we think is possible for ourselves, whether we view the world as good or bad, what we strive for. Our history—our upbringing—impacts everything we think and believe and do. It's is impossible to know where to go without reflecting on your past. Understanding our heritage and our roots are a very important part of carving out our future. Melissa Joy • Never Forget Where You Came From. This excerpt is from Melissa Joy and a damn good one! You can forget the past if you want to but I for one will never forget it and will remember it to motivate everyone in the future. |
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Re: Underwhelmed
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Well said.
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I think that's a great way to do it. I personally put character issues very high on my list because it affects how I like the players on my team. I'd rather root for a guy that doesn't have all the talent but tries to make up for it with hustle than a superstar that quits whenever the going gets tough.
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Re: Underwhelmed
thank u burningmetal I just like to throw a little fun on top of a bad reply I totally get it bros
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I think our history is part of what makes us who we are, especially the
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Recent history is what matters to me. The last two drafts look like winners. We are trending up.
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Re: Underwhelmed
watching top undrafted players and they just went through John Randle. He was about the same size as Rankins.
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