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But were any of guards as good as one we can still get.

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won't know unless some show up to camp via UDFA

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This running back they just took kind of makes it look like they didn't give a crap there. Just wanted to pick and go home. Not that there's much name recognition left, but that just didn't make much sense. I'll wait to hear the riveting story behind that selection.

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Do a little reading up on him.

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I am happy with the picks for the most part. Don't know a thing about the 4th round guy ya'll are arguing about. I would like to say though..why tf do the Saints hate LSU players? I know it was a down year for the Tigers but c'mon. Alexander was originally suppose to be a 3rd rounder and he went in the 7th. I don't get how we have one of the top football colleges in the country and we never draft anyone from it.

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I did. My opinion stays the same.

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i really believe they might try him at wideout

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lets see we got 5 players and started out with 6 picks. add io it we traded away 2 picks in 2017.

5 players with 8 picks and the final conclusion I can reach is simple.

we got quicker not faster and not any bigger really or nastier.

i guess we will glide around other teams and charm them to death

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First off there's PLENTY off first round players that don't have all 32 come and physically watch, but could be of interest later and could communicate email phone that's just 17 that showed no telling how many actually reached out

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i'm more excited by the UDFA class than the draft picks

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Cajun,

You know that isn't true. Cmon man, there were some good picks made. This isn't Reprish and company in the draft room selecting duds :dunce:.

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Lasco= Reminds me of a Chrysler ����

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I dont get drafting safeties so high. You could have Ronnie Lott & the
'89 49ers secondary, but w/o a strong front 7, it does no good.

Conversely, you a strong front 7, can turn an average secondary into ball hawks.
Unless you can get a shutdown corner, secondary, to me, is.. secondary.

I want LBs

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I do think we have our best group of LBs since 2009.

Hell the might be better then that group.

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We didn't draft a ridiculous project in the second like SJB, we didn't waste a high draft pick on a WTF, I mean QB so I'm pretty okay. No gnawing on my computer or anything. We did okay in the free agency. We have new blood on the defensive coaching side. Hopefully that will change things from a crew that couldn't develop a digital picture on a computer. Same O and an okay D means...

say it with me now...

Championship!

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Best draft since 2015.

Quality > Quantity.

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I am still trying to wrap my head around this move myself. The silly oh he mailed me tapes was sweet does not fly. he mailed them over night to make millions . sounds like a solid investment plan. Sorry SP he mailed them to all 32 teams on the same day. you got spammed.

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Like I said before we picked the best DT, WR and Safety in the draft another DT, another 2 WR's, Lasco at RB, Turner, another tackle and several centers and guards for the O-Line and throw in the LB special teamer from Bama and I think we had a ROCK SOLID DRAFT and one we should all be proud of because the front office addressed EVERYTHING they had to and then some.

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Dude, let it go. I gave no specific percentage of players that get looked at by all 32 teams. I simply said that it happens. So the fact that this particular player had 17 teams look at him, doesn't tell me a whole lot. Scouts drool over "raw" physical tools far more than they do with just plain ol' production. Just because they showed interest doesn't mean he's all that. It's really pretty simple, the point I'm making.

I'm not going out on a limb and predicting his future. I just don't like the odds. I'm wired, philosophically, with more old school opinions. I don't like these buzzing, trendy prospects that show up right at the end. Sometimes you catch a break, and it works out. But not often.

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The rest of those guys you mentioned were UDFA's. I wouldn't say they addressed all their needs. Hopefully, one of the UDFA's surprises us, but we're a long way from having any clue how that's going to work out.

We got the best WR in the draft, you say? I sure can't say I agree with that.

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What position didn't they address? IMO Thomas was the best receiver out of the draft, size, not afraid to go over the middle and blood line say a lot about him.

Read up on Turner and Allen. These 2 should've gone in the 4th or 5th round and will make the team and one of them may even start of course it's just my opinion but of course yours is just an opinion also. WHO DAT!

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Excited about
Avery Young OT Auburn
A switch to OG is just what the doctor orders. He does need work but length and athleticism is all there. I like this kids upside

Ryker Mathews OT BYU
I like this kids attitude and a switch back to OG might be perfect. Is he a swing lineman who can play either tackle or either guard positions? Played them all in college. Will he earn the title solid "sixth man" and maybe just maybe a candidate that offers starting potential award

Jack Allen C/OG Mich St
He was a surprise signing IMO. A very pleasant one. were he fits in the grand scheme of things has me perplexed. I could use players like this messing with my head more.

We will see?
Landon Turner OG UNC - I am not so gaga over him as many are. Not too sold on the upside hype either

Joseph Cheek OL Texas A&M - I do not know all that much about the kid

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DAmn thats exciting, when you look at it that way, CherM. It sounds to me like we filled in the gaps w/ the UDFAs. I'm hearing great things about the undrafted guys this morning.

-- and they have me and you & 78,000 other ragin cajuns in the Dome gonna raise hell this fall. (tailgate party in houston! to kick it off)

How do you guys know all this sh!$ ????

...

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That's a false narrative and very few people on this board or anywhere else will agree that the only recent draft history is last year. Again, '11,'12,'14 there are 3 people left on our team, hence the back to back 7-9 seasons.

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That is not a false narrative because after the 2014-15 season the Saints fired college scouting director Rick Reiprish and several of his staff. This followed several years of very poor drafting. Reiprish was replaced by Jeff Ireland and several new fresh faces in the department. 2015 was the first and ONLY draft dependent upon this new group and it was arguably the best since 2006. Last year is truly the only relevant draft history.

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And also this draft is the 1st with Dennis Allen as DC. We fired Reprish because his drafts sucked.

If 2015 and 2016 are any indication, I think we have the right guys calling the shots now. Or at least they're a heck of a lot better than 2007 thru 2014.

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I liked last year, I like our two mid guys this year a lot, but we don't really know yet. It is not a fact, yet, but what is a fact is that we have 3 players from '11.'12.'14. That doesn't fill me with confidence. I hope they're all studs, but I think any Saint fan questioning some of the selections is justified based off of recent history. Contrary to minority opinion, recent history does not include last year only.

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I could care less, the only way that would be a relevant argument is if we had an entirely new coaching staff and GM. We don't so no it is not applicable. That is a failed attempt to hide the mistakes the Saints have made in drafts between 2011-2014. Last year is too early to tell as is this year.

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I disagree. If your previous drafts sucked, and then you fired the guy in charge of those drafts and several of his scouts, then suddenly have the best draft in almost a decade with a new guy in charge of the drafts, I do think the previous drafts aren't relevant.

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the two guys responsible for the draftS are still here, SP and ML, which is 100% why the previous drafts are relevant and should be to Saints fans, and why no one should be criticized for demonstrating concern over draft decisions. We were 7-9 back to back because of poor draft choices. Saints fans are completely justified to have concern.

Again, I like last years draft and really like the two Ohio State guys, but time will tell and I am not going to pretend ML and SP have not bad decisions.

I do agree with DA taking over, I like him a lot and I do expect our d to be better and more aggressive.

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SP and ML pick the guys the scouts laid out. Also, SP and ML like to pick the underdogs. Which is why that Onyemata pick happened.

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Many times Payton wants to make the splash

His mojo worked in 2006-2010

Big draft trophies Ingram took years to produce
Get the best free agent. Byrd, Spiller, Browner
The Nigerian Canadian when tried need players were on the board has me scratching my head

They showed a little restraint thankfully in this draft

And urfa crop looks like it could help out alot

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Too bad he didn't clean house on positional coaches

Offnsive line hasn't been there since Aaron Kromer left

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This is what Loomis had to say on why whathisname was drafted really early...

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let's hope because we need the help

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OnyoMaMa gonna slap some mama OL!

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Can you talk about what you liked so much about David Onyemata?

We had some information and I am pretty confident that he wouldn’t have been available to us if we would have stayed right where we were at. We’re excited to have him and I would say that we see some versatility in this player. We’re expecting some early contribution. This isn’t a guy that is just going to sit and not be productive for us. I think we expect some early contributions from him.”

I like the explanation of why we drafted the individual, but the position is what I still don't get. You go DT first round, have already signed Fairley, and still have Jenkins, who, while not a bright spot, din't suck as bad as everyone else.
If Loomis and SP knew that the slew of UDFA guards would be available, then they are either lucky or geniuses

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I'm going with both mostly genius seasoned with a little bit of luck...

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And Fairley/Jenkins both have to be re-signed after this year, so that adds to the reason of going DT in the first...

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Damn some of you like to whine about nothing.