Saints - Scared to take a shot?

saintz08 · 03-03-2005, 11:21 AM

Anybody think that the Saints are just scared to make a mistake?

Great , I can see it now .....

Hasbeens little alarm goes off on the morning free agency begins , Hasbeen rolls over and kisses his worthless dog spot . Staggers out of bed and down the stairs to his crappy cup of coffee in his kitchen , where he sits with the free agency list in front of him looking at all the potential for him to bring in and sign .

Suddenly Habeen stops and one thought plays over and over in his head ( partially because of a lack of brain size and the echo that the thought causes ) Do I really want to prove to the world I am an Idiot ???

Yep , that works for me ....

WhoDat · 03-03-2005, 11:51 AM

Jokes aside - how else do you explain it?

I mean, let\'s assume for a minute that Haslett and Loomis know nothing about football at all. Just watching the games should be enough to identify to them that the team\'s linebackers are terrible, and have been for 4 years. If that\'s not enough, the press and analysts screaming about the team\'s linebackers might tip them off. Add in the fact that Haslett SHOULD know a thing or two about evaluating talent at the position HE PLAYED, and they have to know LB is a problem. So why don\'t they act to improve the position? Seriously? Other than fear, the only othre reasons I can think of are insanity, or maybe they\'re just playing a dirty trick on the people of New Orleans.

In any case, for the 5th straight year LB is not on the Saints\' list as a priority. It\'s getting just plain ridiculous. It reminds me of Monty Python....

\"Stop that I\'ve won.\"
\"No you haven\'t.\"
\"But I\'ve cut both of your arms off!\"
\"No you haven\'t.\"
\"Look!\"
\"It\'s just a flesh wound!\"

JKool · 03-03-2005, 12:41 PM

It seems to me that there are, at least, two possible explanations:
(1) Fear.
(2) Belief that signing 4 upgrades is better than one big name, and a trade is a brewin\'. Our cap space has been improved by releasing Pathon, but with Howard on the sheets, we are way overpaying for DEs. If we move Howard for a \"star\" who is 3 mil cheaper, we can afford to sign (possibly) two 3-4mil range players, one 5-6 mil range player, OR four to five 1-3 mil range players. We can still get up-grades at OLB, OT, OG, S, CB, and even DT in the 1-3 mil range.

Is that optimistic enough? Where is Billy, I\'m sure he could come up with something?

baronm · 03-03-2005, 12:46 PM

we could drop another 3 million if we drop jones...

I hope a trade is comeing and they are going to look at several positions.

JKool · 03-03-2005, 12:48 PM

That\'s the spirit Baron! Now, you\'re seein\' what I\'m seein\'; which means we\'re probably wrong...

LKelley67 · 03-03-2005, 01:10 PM

they are making some cap room indeed. by the time they are through though will there be anyone to spend it on? remember last season they entered the season with 11mil cap room. i slip into my judy garland voice:

somewhere over the rainbow
kendrell bell signed
there is a game i have heard of,
superbowl so high

somewhere over the rainbow
pats win
pats win over the rainbow
why then, why can\'t we?
someday we\'ll sign a free agent star
and i\'ll wake up with .500 far behind me
where playoffs wins flow so easily

somewhere over the rainbow
every other team wins a ring
why oh why can\'t we?

ScottyRo · 03-03-2005, 01:17 PM

Judy Garland?

I guess the missing sheep question has been answered.

JKool · 03-03-2005, 01:19 PM

xrotflmao:

LKelley67 · 03-03-2005, 01:19 PM

LOL judy garland voice with slipknot backing

GumboBC · 03-03-2005, 01:22 PM

Here\'s the deal ...

1. First, free-agency can make or break a team.

These big name free-agents get grossly over-paid and they usually don\'t help their team enough to justify their contracts. Most teams need more than ONE player to really make a difference. And overpaying ONE player can have a very negative effect when it comes to trying to put a \"complete\" team together.

It\'s very debateable how much free-agency has helped or hurt teams.

The teams who historically sign the high-profile players really aren\'t that much better because of it.

The Redskins are a team who has grabbed up more than their fair share of free-agents and are really no better off because of it.

Denver is another team who has tried to cash in with the signing of Champ Baily. It got them nowhere.

Conversly, teams like Philly and New England chose not to go the free-agnecy route and are two of the best teams in the NFL over the past 3 or 4 years.

More times than not, when a team overpays for a free-agent, it really doesn\'t affect their record that much. They might be better off at that position, but overall it really doesn\'t make that much difference.

So, who can blame the Saints for not gambling when it comes to free-agency? Or any team for that matter...

I want the Saints to get the best players they can to help this team. However, I don\'t want them to mortgage their future by grossly over-paying a LB or DT or CB.

If there is an affordable player who can help this team win then they sould actively pursue him. If not, they should pass.

Also, these players must be willing to come to New Orleans. It was recently reported that a big name playe (receiver from Pittsburg, I can\'t remember his name) r was offered more money to go to New England but his wife preferred to live in the Baltimore area because that\'s where she wanted to live.

There\'s much more that goes on than meets the eye.

03-03-2005, 11:21 AM	#11
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	Saints - Scared to take a shot? Anybody think that the Saints are just scared to make a mistake? Great , I can see it now ..... Hasbeens little alarm goes off on the morning free agency begins , Hasbeen rolls over and kisses his worthless dog spot . Staggers out of bed and down the stairs to his crappy cup of coffee in his kitchen , where he sits with the free agency list in front of him looking at all the potential for him to bring in and sign . Suddenly Habeen stops and one thought plays over and over in his head ( partially because of a lack of brain size and the echo that the thought causes ) Do I really want to prove to the world I am an Idiot ??? Yep , that works for me ....
saintz08 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,020	\"Americans play to win at all times. I wouldn\'t give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed.\" - George S. Patton On another note, I\'ll take a bite of that crow 08. - Saintfan Brooks is a moron!! - Halo

03-03-2005, 11:51 AM	#12
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Saints - Scared to take a shot? Jokes aside - how else do you explain it? I mean, let\'s assume for a minute that Haslett and Loomis know nothing about football at all. Just watching the games should be enough to identify to them that the team\'s linebackers are terrible, and have been for 4 years. If that\'s not enough, the press and analysts screaming about the team\'s linebackers might tip them off. Add in the fact that Haslett SHOULD know a thing or two about evaluating talent at the position HE PLAYED, and they have to know LB is a problem. So why don\'t they act to improve the position? Seriously? Other than fear, the only othre reasons I can think of are insanity, or maybe they\'re just playing a dirty trick on the people of New Orleans. In any case, for the 5th straight year LB is not on the Saints\' list as a priority. It\'s getting just plain ridiculous. It reminds me of Monty Python.... \"Stop that I\'ve won.\" \"No you haven\'t.\" \"But I\'ve cut both of your arms off!\" \"No you haven\'t.\" \"Look!\" \"It\'s just a flesh wound!\"
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	\"Excuses, excuses, excuses. ThatÃ¢Â€Â™s all anyone ever makes for the New Orleans SaintsÃ¢Â€Â™ organization.\" - Eric Narcisse \"Being a Saints fan is almost like being addicted to crack,\" he said.[i]\"You know you should stop, but you just can\'t.\"

03-03-2005, 12:41 PM	#13
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Saints - Scared to take a shot? It seems to me that there are, at least, two possible explanations: (1) Fear. (2) Belief that signing 4 upgrades is better than one big name, and a trade is a brewin\'. Our cap space has been improved by releasing Pathon, but with Howard on the sheets, we are way overpaying for DEs. If we move Howard for a \"star\" who is 3 mil cheaper, we can afford to sign (possibly) two 3-4mil range players, one 5-6 mil range player, OR four to five 1-3 mil range players. We can still get up-grades at OLB, OT, OG, S, CB, and even DT in the 1-3 mil range. Is that optimistic enough? Where is Billy, I\'m sure he could come up with something?
	"... I was beating them with my eyes the whole game..." - Aaron Brooks

03-03-2005, 12:46 PM	#14
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LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	Saints - Scared to take a shot? they are making some cap room indeed. by the time they are through though will there be anyone to spend it on? remember last season they entered the season with 11mil cap room. i slip into my judy garland voice: somewhere over the rainbow kendrell bell signed there is a game i have heard of, superbowl so high somewhere over the rainbow pats win pats win over the rainbow why then, why can\'t we? someday we\'ll sign a free agent star and i\'ll wake up with .500 far behind me where playoffs wins flow so easily somewhere over the rainbow every other team wins a ring why oh why can\'t we?

03-03-2005, 01:17 PM	#17
ScottyRo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Williamsburg, VA (ugh, the food here) Posts: 1,704	Saints - Scared to take a shot? Judy Garland? I guess the missing sheep question has been answered.

03-03-2005, 01:19 PM	#18
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Saints - Scared to take a shot? xrotflmao:

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LKelley67 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: baton rouge Posts: 2,540	Saints - Scared to take a shot? LOL judy garland voice with slipknot backing

03-03-2005, 01:22 PM	#20
GumboBC Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,616	Saints - Scared to take a shot? Here\'s the deal ... 1. First, free-agency can make or break a team. These big name free-agents get grossly over-paid and they usually don\'t help their team enough to justify their contracts. Most teams need more than ONE player to really make a difference. And overpaying ONE player can have a very negative effect when it comes to trying to put a \"complete\" team together. It\'s very debateable how much free-agency has helped or hurt teams. The teams who historically sign the high-profile players really aren\'t that much better because of it. The Redskins are a team who has grabbed up more than their fair share of free-agents and are really no better off because of it. Denver is another team who has tried to cash in with the signing of Champ Baily. It got them nowhere. Conversly, teams like Philly and New England chose not to go the free-agnecy route and are two of the best teams in the NFL over the past 3 or 4 years. More times than not, when a team overpays for a free-agent, it really doesn\'t affect their record that much. They might be better off at that position, but overall it really doesn\'t make that much difference. So, who can blame the Saints for not gambling when it comes to free-agency? Or any team for that matter... I want the Saints to get the best players they can to help this team. However, I don\'t want them to mortgage their future by grossly over-paying a LB or DT or CB. If there is an affordable player who can help this team win then they sould actively pursue him. If not, they should pass. Also, these players must be willing to come to New Orleans. It was recently reported that a big name playe (receiver from Pittsburg, I can\'t remember his name) r was offered more money to go to New England but his wife preferred to live in the Baltimore area because that\'s where she wanted to live. There\'s much more that goes on than meets the eye.
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