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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; JKool might remember this discussion. It's one that was brought up a few months back (has it been a year now?). Anybody think that the Saints are just scared to make a mistake? I think FA demonstrates this fear more ...

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Old 03-03-2005, 09:48 AM   #1
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JKool might remember this discussion. It's one that was brought up a few months back (has it been a year now?).

Anybody think that the Saints are just scared to make a mistake? I think FA demonstrates this fear more than any other time of year - but it's evident all year round, and it's the feeling that seems to permeate for the entire organization.

I think this organization is scared, and that's why it doesn't make progress. Hell, Loomis came out a couple of days ago and said that there's no reason to be aggressive in FA and get burned by guys like Albert Connell. He talked about 2000/2001 and how you won't see that from the Saints again any time soon.

Meanwhile, didn't the Saints sign Horn, Blake, Brooks, Clemmons (who was a great OLB I don't care what you say), and draft guys like Deuce and Howard in those years?

In any case, this is why I don't expect to see much from the Saints in FA. They're scared to act. They'll sit back and spend a little money on the leftovers. If the guy works out, great, they got a deal. If not, then they aren't losing much either.

I get the same feeling when I read about how the Saints will play a read-and-react type defense, and how they want to limit the big plays. Better to allow a team to nickel and dime you down the field than to make a mistake and attack the wrong hole and get beat deep. This is how I feel when I watch a team with FOUR WRs with sub-4.4 speed throw deep maybe once a game - why take the risk?

But this time of year is when you truly see the Saints colors. Why make a change at coach? The team could get worse, and average is by default, better than half the league. Why go out and sign a new coordinator when one chooses to leave? That's risky and involves money. Just promote an assistant from within - that way you know what you're getting. Why look for a new QB? That could create controversy. Why upgrade at key positions? Let's play with what we got - it might not be perfect, but it won't cost us a lot if it doesn't work out.

I see fear from this team. Fear to stick it's neck out and take a risk - and when was the last time you saw something great accomplished by a person trying to minimize risk?
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:12 AM   #2
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the thing is..they take a shot at the wrong players-players that everyone knows are the wrong players...

brooks was an excellent signing..he just needs to be developed and held accountable.

mcalister, smith were great drafts..its just guys like henry from the browns that we let slip to go after the tebucky jones and sullivans of the world.
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:14 AM   #3
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i spose we can buck up and keep the faith. after all, only one offensive tackle, probably one linebacker, a safety or two, a plugging defensive tackle, and a backup receiver are needed. there are seven rounds in the draft. i betcha somebody is signed in the next two or three weeks. forget who it might be, they will. don\'t worry, be happy. hey, i\'m getting there. maybe some doors music... woke up this mornin and had myself a beer.
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:16 AM   #4
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Total agreement Who. And tha fear has spread to a good number of fans too. Fear that anything different will be a mistake. The team has allowed that attitude to permeate through the masses, and it\'s just wrong. What\'s the saying \"Live like a man instead of dying like a coward.\" Well, our team is slowly dying like cowards.
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:20 AM   #5
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We\'ll sign somebody before the week is out. The first day of FA is usually for the big time signups anyway. Everyone else is looking around and weighing options.

Loomis stuck his neck out once and got burned badly (Sullivan). Around the same time he completed what seemed to be a can\'t miss - and got burned (Tbucky). These weren\'t necessarily FA moves, but they do contibute to his current psyche.

Even IF he were to make a risky move in FA, what makes any of us think it\'ll work out?
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:22 AM   #6
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Even IF he were to make a risky move in FA, what makes any of us think it\'ll work out?
I rest my case.
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:28 AM   #7
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Loomis stuck his neck out once and got burned badly (Sullivan). Around the same time he completed what seemed to be a can\'t miss - and got burned (Tbucky). These weren\'t necessarily FA moves, but they do contibute to his current psyche
againcites teh uqestion who is making the decisions-haslet or loomis..if hasslet-make him stop..if loomis, fire him.
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:46 AM   #8
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againcites teh uqestion who is making the decisions-haslet or loomis..if hasslet-make him stop..if loomis, fire him.
When I was decoding this, I had to check my post to see if I was being made fun of for bad typing. :P
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:50 AM   #9
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sorry..I saw that after I posted it...I was talking and writing at the same time...decoded it says:

again this cites the question: who is calling the personel shots in NO..if it\'s haslet he needs to stop, if it\'s loomis he needs to be fired.
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Old 03-03-2005, 10:54 AM   #10
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maybe doing nothing at all would be better. something bad may not happen that way. maybe, maybe not. tebucky was a stretch, his no-tackle mo was well established.

not to decide is a decision
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