I admit I was wrong

NonieT · 05-30-2016, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Who's the guy who plays for the Bucs that beat Strief 3 times and got Brees injured?

Gerald McCoy

NonieT · 05-30-2016, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

Strief will be a starter as long as possible because of his intangibles. He's a great leader. Sean Payton would rather have a lineman who doesn't make mental errors rather than a physical beast who gets the protections wrong.

Strief is a liability and if he starts he's gonna get Brees killed.

ChrisXVI · 05-30-2016, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Who's the guy who plays for the Bucs that beat Strief 3 times and got Brees injured?

Jacques Smith. Who? Exactly.

Danno · 05-30-2016, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by NonieT

There is nothing underrated about Streif except is propensity to get beat by fast DEs. Remember Ahmad Brooks. Remember JJ Watt.

Yeah, those guys never beat any RT's.

spkb25 · 05-30-2016, 01:40 PM

strief is on his last leg, but my guess is that Peat at guard with strief at tackle gives us the best 5 guys out there we can have. In the meantime we have to find another guard and move Peat to RT and that will probably happen after this season.

NonieT · 05-30-2016, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Yeah, those guys never beat any RT's.

Thank you for making my point. Strief's but belongs on the bench.

spkb25 · 05-30-2016, 03:06 PM

well i can only hope that strief may have been injured last season and returns to form, but he certainly looked to be on his last leg

hagan714 · 05-30-2016, 04:56 PM

I say it over and over. Drafting a a tackle that can swing left to right and back again is vastly under rated. It is not as easy as it seems.

He was not ready to be starter in the NFL when he was drafted
He has almost played his entire football life as a LT. So dance to the right was a mess
It is safe to safe he probably is still a better backup LT still than as a backup RT.
So this is a step in the right direction.
If RT is were he is going to be then RG makes all the sense in the world.

Conclusion he was a bit of a reach in a draft were reaching for OT was all the fad. (mid 20s was his range). He probably would have not gotten past Carolina at 25. If he does a solid job at RG and shows improvement with moving to the right all season long he is not a wasted pick really.

I for one say he is almost on schedule to push for the starting job at RT in year 3.

Crusader · 05-30-2016, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

From RG it's an easier transition to RT than it would be from LT.

Spot on! Just making the transition from being in a left stance to a right will take some time.

Crusader · 05-30-2016, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by NonieT

Thank you for making my point. Strief's but belongs on the bench.

You sir don't know what you are talking about. Danno is correct, Strief is a very solid RT. Especially when he have a RG beside him that doesn't stink it up.

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NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: I admit I was wrong Originally Posted by dizzle88 Who's the guy who plays for the Bucs that beat Strief 3 times and got Brees injured? Gerald McCoy
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NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: I admit I was wrong Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Strief will be a starter as long as possible because of his intangibles. He's a great leader. Sean Payton would rather have a lineman who doesn't make mental errors rather than a physical beast who gets the protections wrong. Strief is a liability and if he starts he's gonna get Brees killed. dizzle88 likes this.
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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: I admit I was wrong Originally Posted by dizzle88 Who's the guy who plays for the Bucs that beat Strief 3 times and got Brees injured? Jacques Smith. Who? Exactly. dizzle88 likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: I admit I was wrong Originally Posted by NonieT There is nothing underrated about Streif except is propensity to get beat by fast DEs. Remember Ahmad Brooks. Remember JJ Watt. Yeah, those guys never beat any RT's. ScottF and dam1953 like this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: I admit I was wrong strief is on his last leg, but my guess is that Peat at guard with strief at tackle gives us the best 5 guys out there we can have. In the meantime we have to find another guard and move Peat to RT and that will probably happen after this season. jnormand likes this.

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05-30-2016, 02:05 PM	#16
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: I admit I was wrong Originally Posted by Danno Yeah, those guys never beat any RT's. Thank you for making my point. Strief's but belongs on the bench.
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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: I admit I was wrong well i can only hope that strief may have been injured last season and returns to form, but he certainly looked to be on his last leg

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: I admit I was wrong I say it over and over. Drafting a a tackle that can swing left to right and back again is vastly under rated. It is not as easy as it seems. He was not ready to be starter in the NFL when he was drafted He has almost played his entire football life as a LT. So dance to the right was a mess It is safe to safe he probably is still a better backup LT still than as a backup RT. So this is a step in the right direction. If RT is were he is going to be then RG makes all the sense in the world. Conclusion he was a bit of a reach in a draft were reaching for OT was all the fad. (mid 20s was his range). He probably would have not gotten past Carolina at 25. If he does a solid job at RG and shows improvement with moving to the right all season long he is not a wasted pick really. I for one say he is almost on schedule to push for the starting job at RT in year 3. jnormand likes this.
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Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: I admit I was wrong Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II From RG it's an easier transition to RT than it would be from LT. Spot on! Just making the transition from being in a left stance to a right will take some time.

05-30-2016, 05:43 PM	#20
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,025	Re: I admit I was wrong Originally Posted by NonieT Thank you for making my point. Strief's but belongs on the bench. You sir don't know what you are talking about. Danno is correct, Strief is a very solid RT. Especially when he have a RG beside him that doesn't stink it up.

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