I admit I was wrong

skymike · 05-30-2016, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Yeah, those guys never beat any RT's.

JJ Watt is the best defensive player in Football. Saying someone belongs on the bench because they got beat by JJ Watt is like saying somebody belongs on the bench because Lawrence Taylor torched them.
Thankfully, we have Sean Payton, who knows what he is talking about.

NonieT · 05-30-2016, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

You sir don't know what you are talking about. Danno is correct, Strief is a very solid RT. Especially when he have a RG beside him that doesn't stink it up.

It's miss not sir. There are females on this board hence the screen name NonieT. Strief is old, slow and gets injured a lot. Age as caught up to him and he needs to be upgraded. You are welcome to your opinion, however I have mine and it isn't anymore wrong than yours. If Strief is the starting RT tackle he will get Brees killed. The bench is where he belongs. Let him go block that.

NonieT · 05-30-2016, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

JJ Watt is the best defensive player in Football. Saying someone belongs on the bench because they got beat by JJ Watt is like saying somebody belongs on the bench because Lawrence Taylor torched them.
Thankfully, we have Sean Payton, who knows what he is talking about.

He didn't beat Armstead. Reason he went back to the Rt side. He couldn't get past the LT tackle.

ScottF · 05-30-2016, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by skymike

Thankfully, we have Sean Payton, who knows what he is talking about.

Why do people always forget this part?
If Payton thought Peat could beat out Strief, we probably would have drafted a guard, but we didn't.
So, tomorrow let's go back to being great at our jobs, and trust that Payton knows what he is doing at his. (for references, check nfl.comteamstatsoff)

WillSaints81 · 05-30-2016, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by NonieT

There is nothing underrated about Streif except is propensity to get beat by fast DEs. Remember Ahmad Brooks. Remember JJ Watt.

But but but........Watt does that to every RT.

WillSaints81 · 05-30-2016, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

Why do people always forget this part?
If Payton thought Peat could beat out Strief, we probably would have drafted a guard, but we didn't.
So, tomorrow let's go back to being great at our jobs, and trust that Payton knows what he is doing at his. (for references, check nfl.comteamstatsoff)

He didn't know what he was talking about last offseason thinking the OL was fixed.

WillSaints81 · 05-30-2016, 11:46 PM

I think it's honestly best to move on from long time players so that things are positive before things become nasty. Like it was with Colston. I felt bad wanting him gone and didn't want him to go out the way he did but the team didn't see the warning signs.

Streif is in his 30s, he's at the point of decline.

WillSaints81 · 05-30-2016, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

You sir don't know what you are talking about. Danno is correct, Strief is a very solid RT. Especially when he have a RG beside him that doesn't stink it up.

So Kelemete was the problem? How does Peat keep Watt from getting to Brees when Peat isn't assigned to Watt? Or in this year's case, Mack who's probably going to be Watt-level good this season.

The Dude · 05-30-2016, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

He has two solid NFL OT's ahead of him. He probably still needs a season to surpass Strief, who may be the most under-rated player on the entire Saints team by the fans.

I agree. Strief catches way too much grief. He is an above average player and the definition of a team first kind of guy.

Danno · 05-31-2016, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

So Kelemete was the problem? How does Peat keep Watt from getting to Brees when Peat isn't assigned to Watt? Or in this year's case, Mack who's probably going to be Watt-level good this season.

Our worst OL last year was Evans, who played RG, who we cut

05-30-2016, 07:50 PM	#21
skymike E. Side Cholo Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The Barrio, H-town Posts: 6,089	Re: I admit I was wrong Originally Posted by Danno Yeah, those guys never beat any RT's. JJ Watt is the best defensive player in Football. Saying someone belongs on the bench because they got beat by JJ Watt is like saying somebody belongs on the bench because Lawrence Taylor torched them. Thankfully, we have Sean Payton, who knows what he is talking about.

05-30-2016, 08:25 PM	#22
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: I admit I was wrong Originally Posted by Crusader You sir don't know what you are talking about. Danno is correct, Strief is a very solid RT. Especially when he have a RG beside him that doesn't stink it up. It's miss not sir. There are females on this board hence the screen name NonieT. Strief is old, slow and gets injured a lot. Age as caught up to him and he needs to be upgraded. You are welcome to your opinion, however I have mine and it isn't anymore wrong than yours. If Strief is the starting RT tackle he will get Brees killed. The bench is where he belongs. Let him go block that.
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05-30-2016, 08:26 PM	#23
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: I admit I was wrong Originally Posted by skymike JJ Watt is the best defensive player in Football. Saying someone belongs on the bench because they got beat by JJ Watt is like saying somebody belongs on the bench because Lawrence Taylor torched them. Thankfully, we have Sean Payton, who knows what he is talking about. He didn't beat Armstead. Reason he went back to the Rt side. He couldn't get past the LT tackle.
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05-30-2016, 08:32 PM	#24
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: I admit I was wrong Originally Posted by skymike Thankfully, we have Sean Payton, who knows what he is talking about. Why do people always forget this part? If Payton thought Peat could beat out Strief, we probably would have drafted a guard, but we didn't. So, tomorrow let's go back to being great at our jobs, and trust that Payton knows what he is doing at his. (for references, check nfl.comteamstatsoff)

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WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: I admit I was wrong Originally Posted by NonieT There is nothing underrated about Streif except is propensity to get beat by fast DEs. Remember Ahmad Brooks. Remember JJ Watt. But but but........Watt does that to every RT.

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05-30-2016, 11:43 PM	#26
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: I admit I was wrong Originally Posted by ScottF Why do people always forget this part? If Payton thought Peat could beat out Strief, we probably would have drafted a guard, but we didn't. So, tomorrow let's go back to being great at our jobs, and trust that Payton knows what he is doing at his. (for references, check nfl.comteamstatsoff) He didn't know what he was talking about last offseason thinking the OL was fixed.

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WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: I admit I was wrong I think it's honestly best to move on from long time players so that things are positive before things become nasty. Like it was with Colston. I felt bad wanting him gone and didn't want him to go out the way he did but the team didn't see the warning signs. Streif is in his 30s, he's at the point of decline.

05-30-2016, 11:48 PM	#28
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: I admit I was wrong Originally Posted by Crusader You sir don't know what you are talking about. Danno is correct, Strief is a very solid RT. Especially when he have a RG beside him that doesn't stink it up. So Kelemete was the problem? How does Peat keep Watt from getting to Brees when Peat isn't assigned to Watt? Or in this year's case, Mack who's probably going to be Watt-level good this season.

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: I admit I was wrong Originally Posted by Danno He has two solid NFL OT's ahead of him. He probably still needs a season to surpass Strief, who may be the most under-rated player on the entire Saints team by the fans. I agree. Strief catches way too much grief. He is an above average player and the definition of a team first kind of guy.
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05-31-2016, 12:28 AM	#30
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: I admit I was wrong Originally Posted by WillSaints81 So Kelemete was the problem? How does Peat keep Watt from getting to Brees when Peat isn't assigned to Watt? Or in this year's case, Mack who's probably going to be Watt-level good this season. Our worst OL last year was Evans, who played RG, who we cut \|Mitch\| likes this.

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