Akiem Hicks backs Rob Ryan, says Ryan’s power was stripped

AsylumGuido · 06-03-2016, 10:36 AM

Curtis Loftin has had nothing but good to say about the Saints since he left. In fact, he still lives in New Orleans.

The Dude · 06-03-2016, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Curtis Loftin has had nothing but good to say about the Saints since he left. In fact, he still lives in New Orleans.

Same with Vilma. Not all players, just more than I've ever seen.

The Dude · 06-03-2016, 12:01 PM

Originally Posted by NonieT

I don't recall Stills saying anything. Jimmy had an atitude before he left the Saints. He didn't like being classified as a tightend. Hicks rans his mouth to the media about playing DE which is probably why he was traded. He ran his mouth long before he left the Saints. As far as Sproles wife, that pretty much is self-explanatory. Sproles himself has said he's at peace with it and even still keeps in touch with some of the Saints' players. Humber was cut and he hasn't said one thing aboutt the Saints, one way or the other. Hawthrone was cut, he hasn't said one bad thing about the Saints. Watson wasn't re-signed and he's had nothing but good things to say about the Saints. It all sounds like sour grapes to me. Consider the source.

I'm sure it is the source. The problem lies with those types of players. At some point they were allowed to get away with having a bad attitude and it wasn't nipped in the bud soon enough. That's a problem that lies within the coaches and staff. Jr's release was long overdue and Browner was always yelling in the coaches faces. He should have been benched the first time it happened. The rest of the team sees that and it just sets a bad tone. One player with an attitude might slip through the crack, maybe even two, but when you have a hand full of them that's a problem with team culture.

Euphoria · 06-03-2016, 12:04 PM

I don't think there was ever an issue that Ryan was a players coach.

The Problem is that making friends doesn't get the job done. You can like him all you like but when you suck... you suck.

spkb25 · 06-03-2016, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Jimmy, Sproles (or his wife), Stills, Hicks, and one or two others. I don't count Jr and Browner because they are classless douche bags. I can't remember one Saint ever saying anything negative about the organization before this. Maybe joe horn.

Sproles' wife was mad because they wanted to stay here...

Stills...really?

Hicks....really?

So basically jr and toast

jeanpierre · 06-03-2016, 03:23 PM

Bears DT Akiem Hicks opens up on escaping New Orleans and fitting in with the Patriots - Pats Pulpit

Interesting perspective from the "outside" on Hicks, his departure, his Patriots' acclimation, success, and new free agent contract with Da Bears...

hagan714 · 06-03-2016, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Square peg, round hole...didn't fit the scheme change...

Nope i do not buy into. they refused to accept he was not DE.

QBREES9 · 06-04-2016, 12:27 AM

Don't care, he's gone, lets move on.

The Dude · 06-04-2016, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Bears DT Akiem Hicks opens up on escaping New Orleans and fitting in with the Patriots - Pats Pulpit

Interesting perspective from the "outside" on Hicks, his departure, his Patriots' acclimation, success, and new free agent contract with Da Bears...

Article reaffirms my belief that we were running the wrong scheme for the personnel we had. THey should have run the scheme that played to most of their players strengths. They were indeed trying to fit a round peg into a square hole. Apparantly Hicks "Developed into one of the best DTs in the league down the stretch"
I still believe Payton saw a defense out there he wanted to immulate and tried to make it happen no matter what. You have to have the right players in place to emmulate a Seattle or Denver.

Rugby Saint II · 06-06-2016, 10:15 AM

Buh bye.

06-03-2016, 10:36 AM	#31
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,046	Re: Akiem Hicks backs Rob Ryan, says Ryan’s power was stripped Curtis Loftin has had nothing but good to say about the Saints since he left. In fact, he still lives in New Orleans.

06-03-2016, 11:56 AM	#32
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Akiem Hicks backs Rob Ryan, says Ryan’s power was stripped Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Curtis Loftin has had nothing but good to say about the Saints since he left. In fact, he still lives in New Orleans. Same with Vilma. Not all players, just more than I've ever seen.
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06-03-2016, 12:01 PM	#33
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Akiem Hicks backs Rob Ryan, says Ryan’s power was stripped Originally Posted by NonieT I don't recall Stills saying anything. Jimmy had an atitude before he left the Saints. He didn't like being classified as a tightend. Hicks rans his mouth to the media about playing DE which is probably why he was traded. He ran his mouth long before he left the Saints. As far as Sproles wife, that pretty much is self-explanatory. Sproles himself has said he's at peace with it and even still keeps in touch with some of the Saints' players. Humber was cut and he hasn't said one thing aboutt the Saints, one way or the other. Hawthrone was cut, he hasn't said one bad thing about the Saints. Watson wasn't re-signed and he's had nothing but good things to say about the Saints. It all sounds like sour grapes to me. Consider the source. I'm sure it is the source. The problem lies with those types of players. At some point they were allowed to get away with having a bad attitude and it wasn't nipped in the bud soon enough. That's a problem that lies within the coaches and staff. Jr's release was long overdue and Browner was always yelling in the coaches faces. He should have been benched the first time it happened. The rest of the team sees that and it just sets a bad tone. One player with an attitude might slip through the crack, maybe even two, but when you have a hand full of them that's a problem with team culture.
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06-03-2016, 12:04 PM	#34
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Akiem Hicks backs Rob Ryan, says Ryan’s power was stripped I don't think there was ever an issue that Ryan was a players coach. The Problem is that making friends doesn't get the job done. You can like him all you like but when you suck... you suck. spkb25 and RailBoss like this.

06-03-2016, 12:49 PM	#35
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,093	Re: Akiem Hicks backs Rob Ryan, says Ryan’s power was stripped Originally Posted by The Dude Jimmy, Sproles (or his wife), Stills, Hicks, and one or two others. I don't count Jr and Browner because they are classless douche bags. I can't remember one Saint ever saying anything negative about the organization before this. Maybe joe horn. Sproles' wife was mad because they wanted to stay here... Stills...really? Hicks....really? So basically jr and toast

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Akiem Hicks backs Rob Ryan, says Ryan’s power was stripped Originally Posted by jeanpierre Square peg, round hole...didn't fit the scheme change... Nope i do not buy into. they refused to accept he was not DE.

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06-04-2016, 10:52 PM	#39
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: Akiem Hicks backs Rob Ryan, says Ryan’s power was stripped Originally Posted by jeanpierre Bears DT Akiem Hicks opens up on escaping New Orleans and fitting in with the Patriots - Pats Pulpit Interesting perspective from the "outside" on Hicks, his departure, his Patriots' acclimation, success, and new free agent contract with Da Bears... Article reaffirms my belief that we were running the wrong scheme for the personnel we had. THey should have run the scheme that played to most of their players strengths. They were indeed trying to fit a round peg into a square hole. Apparantly Hicks "Developed into one of the best DTs in the league down the stretch" I still believe Payton saw a defense out there he wanted to immulate and tried to make it happen no matter what. You have to have the right players in place to emmulate a Seattle or Denver. jeanpierre likes this.
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