Training camp preview: Will Saints surprise? - NFL.com

The Dude · 07-16-2016, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

A prediction of 11 wins isn't sleeping I don't think.

Sleeping is Darren Woodson who predicted the Saints to finish last in the division yesterday on NFL Live.

Pundits don't seem to understand two critical points:

1. The Saints have finished 7-9 the last two years with historically bad defenses. Not just bad for a season. Bad in NFL history.

2. All signs point to the defense not being historically bad a third year in a row. Improvements are evident in scheme, personnel, discipline, and health.

So if you can win 7 games with virtually no defense, then what's the expectation when the Saints have a halfway decent defense? Don't need to look far back: 2013 came in with a 11-5 record.

SFIAH

SFIAH

If you can win 7 games with virtually no defense, then yes even a little improvement on D should help. As long as our offense doesn't take a step back.

Anything less than a downright good defense won't get us back to 7-9 if our offense takes a step back. It could very well become a complete loss. Think Brees can average another 20 plus points a game average?

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The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,060	Re: Training camp preview: Will Saints surprise? - NFL.com Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL A prediction of 11 wins isn't sleeping I don't think. Sleeping is Darren Woodson who predicted the Saints to finish last in the division yesterday on NFL Live. Pundits don't seem to understand two critical points: 1. The Saints have finished 7-9 the last two years with historically bad defenses. Not just bad for a season. Bad in NFL history. 2. All signs point to the defense not being historically bad a third year in a row. Improvements are evident in scheme, personnel, discipline, and health. So if you can win 7 games with virtually no defense, then what's the expectation when the Saints have a halfway decent defense? Don't need to look far back: 2013 came in with a 11-5 record. SFIAH SFIAH If you can win 7 games with virtually no defense, then yes even a little improvement on D should help. As long as our offense doesn't take a step back. Anything less than a downright good defense won't get us back to 7-9 if our offense takes a step back. It could very well become a complete loss. Think Brees can average another 20 plus points a game average?
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