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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by jeanpierre Really? So the whole pulling down the line, getting downfield and maintaining run alleys that's not demanding? Or swinging underneath, or jumping ahead of a defender to trap block a big strong man, without holding him, ...

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Old 08-04-2016, 08:37 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
Really? So the whole pulling down the line, getting downfield and maintaining run alleys that's not demanding?

Or swinging underneath, or jumping ahead of a defender to trap block a big strong man, without holding him, is not athletically demanding?

Guards, Centers usually engage defenders near post-snap; whereas Tackles often read defenders and move to seal them out of an area - Peat is used to a more read, react style of play rather than pre-snap read and react upon snap...

Believe Peat's length is also giving him problems at guard where he's more naturally suited as a Tackle; so, I'm not surprised he's really impressed more at Left Tackle...

No one wants to say it, but Peat needs to be at Left Tackle if he's to maximize his potential...
Playing guard is athletically demanding but not as demanding as playing tackle.

There is a reason why less athletic guys play on the interior instead of on the edge. As a tackle you have to protect a whole lot more space than what you do as a guard or center. You go up against guys that are very much faster than most DTs. As a OT you have to move backwards almost as fast as the DEs are moving forward. Its athletically demanding in a whole different way than the interior play that is a lot more about anchoring.

I do however agree with your point about G/C and T engaging the defender in different ways. The interior dictates a lot more than what tackles do, but from personal experience I can say that it has very much to do with how you as a tackle plays the position.
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Re: Saints tackle Andrus Peat is in shape and playing well at his second training camp

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Well, that's on Payton and Loomis for pi**-poor planning...

Terrific guard was on the market in Clint Boling and we instead signed DB Browner who was left off the Patriot's active roster for their championship run in favor of a UDRFA...

And I get drafting the BPA in the draft, but if we don't have what we need on the roster for interior lineman, we should have signed, drafted a guard rather than try the fitting the provervial square peg into a round hole...

It's obvious Peat is a tackle, he's more natural and plays better at tackle; and if maximizing his talent is at tackle, we should consider or try looking at Strief as a guard, maybe...
The front office has bungled the offensive line after the first couple of strong drafts with reaches on injured or under performing players. Armstead was a steal in the third though. Peat was the BPA after the DT we wanted went one pick before our selection to the Browns at 12.

It was unfortunate that he came in out of shape after graduating from a college on the quarter system where he got to camp late. He looks really good this year and worthy of a first round pick from what I hear at training camp. He will be a stud on the O-line for years.......hopefully at RT not guard.

He should be playing RT where he was drafted to play. Strief was supposed to groom him last year and prepare him to take over at RT while Strief played swing tackle. Instead Peat played all over the line because we are so thin and limited athletically at guard.

With Armstead at LT.....Unger at Center.....and Peart at RT we have a great center tackle combo. The problem is Payton has gambled on UDFA's to fill the O-line for so long now that the lack of talent is evident at Guard. Lelito put one over on Payton and never developed into the potential Payton saw. Kelemete(Calamity) isn't getting it done either. Both were pulled for sloppy play last year and we still didn't draft or trade for a starting guard or two who could get the job done.

Edit: Strief is not a guard. He is a serviceable tackle. Leave him where he is.
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Re: Saints tackle Andrus Peat is in shape and playing well at his second training camp

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The front office has bungled the offensive line after the first couple of strong drafts with reaches on injured or under performing players. Armstead was a steal in the third though. Peat was the BPA after the DT we wanted went one pick before our selection to the Browns at 12.

It was unfortunate that he came in out of shape after graduating from a college on the quarter system where he got to camp late. He looks really good this year and worthy of a first round pick from what I hear at training camp. He will be a stud on the O-line for years.......hopefully at RT not guard.

He should be playing RT where he was drafted to play. Strief was supposed to groom him last year and prepare him to take over at RT while Strief played swing tackle. Instead Peat played all over the line because we are so thin and limited athletically at guard.

With Armstead at LT.....Unger at Center.....and Peart at RT we have a great center tackle combo. The problem is Payton has gambled on UDFA's to fill the O-line for so long now that the lack of talent is evident at Guard. Lelito put one over on Payton and never developed into the potential Payton saw. Kelemete(Calamity) isn't getting it done either. Both were pulled for sloppy play last year and we still didn't draft or trade for a starting guard or two who could get the job done.

Edit: Strief is not a guard. He is a serviceable tackle. Leave him where he is.
Well, it would appear we now have two excellent Left Tackles (Armstead, Peat) on the roster, one excellent Center (Unger) in the last year of his contract, one aging highly-graded Right Tackle (Strief) and two serviceable guards (Lelito and Kelemete) who'd be great interior backups, one excellent guard/tackle prospect (Cheek) and one good guard prospect (Turner)...
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