Isn't this about approx. the 12th time you have made this same post when people are discussing what is coming out of camp...and don't you get corrected each and every time that people already recognize we need to have a wait and see approach and yet you ignore that because you'd rather continue to press your agenda? How many post will you say the same thing on only to be told we recognize we need a wait and see approach but that the stuff coming out of camp sounds, at least somewhat, better than last season. I mean for christ sakes you responded to a post that said this:



Do you really think most people on this board do not recognize it is just camp and until the Raiders come to town nothing matters?? But this is what fans do boss- we discuss where the team is and where they might be going...if not then why are you here? I don't mind opposing views because we are here for that, but you continue to say the same thing on damn near every post about the D looking better or doing some things better... and you're doing that even when people say we recognize it is camp. So WTF is your point man?