Improved D says Bobby and Deuce

spkb25 · 08-02-2016, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by jonnyrotten

Press my agenda? If i am pressing an agenda then wouldn't you be doing the exact same thing in the opposite direction?

It's so funny when people don't agree with the team going 16-0 and winning the superbowl everyone gets their feelings hurt. Do I want that to happen too? Of course! Do i want Breaux to be a top shutdown corner in the league? Of course!
But I also have an ounce of realism about the entire situation. Breaux also got torched at times last year and this defense was epically bad. So you may have to overlook my "pessimism" when it comes to the saints defense being much improved through 5 days of camp.

My Agenda...is to look at what is being said by commentators, both of who are ex-professional football players and then say, but we need to wait until they play a meaningful game. I don't know what agenda that is other than to say things sound somewhat better than last year and I am optimistic. 16-0, WTF, that is an exaggeration and if you look at my post they are not sunshine and rainbows.

Much improved vs what my post said- somewhat better than the last two years. You're exaggerating the point I made to fit the narrative you need it to fit in order to come back with a comment like that.

Somewhat better is not the same as much improved...second, I openly stated but we need to wait and see what happens when a meaningful game is played. I never said much improved.

spkb25 · 08-02-2016, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

Every training camp, everything is roses and rainbows. Lets wait until they play a meaningful game before we start crowing them. Right now the defense still scares the bejesus out of me until they prove it

Originally Posted by spkb25

Still have to wait until we play a game that means something, but sounds at least somewhat better than last two seasons.

Exactly what the post said- have to wait for a meaningful game, agree.

jonnyrotten · 08-02-2016, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

My Agenda...is to look at what is being said by commentators, both of who are ex-professional football players and then say, but we need to wait until they play a meaningful game. I don't know what agenda that is other than to say things sound somewhat better than last year and I am optimistic. 16-0, WTF, that is an exaggeration and if you look at my post they are not sunshine and rainbows.

Much improved vs what my post said- somewhat better than the last two years. You're exaggerating the point I made to fit the narrative you need it to fit in order to come back with a comment like that.

Somewhat better is not the same as much improved...second, I openly stated but we need to wait and see what happens when a meaningful game is played. I never said much improved.

Sorry Spk, that wasn't to suggest you specifically said those things as much a rhetorical comment about predictions and the crazy optimism that often times gets thrown around on the board.

I as much as anyone desperately want to see improvements and have to constantly remind myself to temper the expectations I have when I hear the constant reporting of how amazing everyone is in camp. Other teams I am sure are reporting the same great things about their players, and it just doesn't necessarily translate into W's and record breaking stats.

halloween 65 · 08-02-2016, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by RaginCajun83

Every training camp, everything is roses and rainbows. Lets wait until they play a meaningful game before we start crowing them. Right now the defense still scares the bejesus out of me until they prove it

Agreed!! But I still find myself at times wanting to beat the drum a little . But on the flip side I bought what was said about the D before just to watch a bunch of grown pro. atheletes play like a pee-wee team.

SmashMouth · 08-02-2016, 12:38 PM

Championship!

spkb25 · 08-02-2016, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by jonnyrotten

Sorry Spk, that wasn't to suggest you specifically said those things as much a rhetorical comment about predictions and the crazy optimism that often times gets thrown around on the board.

I as much as anyone desperately want to see improvements and have to constantly remind myself to temper the expectations I have when I hear the constant reporting of how amazing everyone is in camp. Other teams I am sure are reporting the same great things about their players, and it just doesn't necessarily translate into W's and record breaking stats.

Agreed. How many times do you see a team look phenom in preseason and then **** the bed. I am right there with you. I think things will be better just because (like SP said) they can't get much worse, but how much better...who knows at this point

Euphoria · 08-02-2016, 01:01 PM

yeah you can't get any worse so saying improved is a safe bet but the problem this time of year is when all the bandwagon gathers and talks we are the best D on paper we have the best O on paper what do you mean we aren't going to the SB. We should beat the Falcons 100-0.

You have to take each game - game by game.

WillMacKenzie · 08-02-2016, 01:05 PM

haha you can tell it's training camp, getting a little salty.

At this point, for me, other games can go either way -- as long as we clip the dirty bird's wings, and cause cam newton's season implode. I bet Harper can't wait to hit that clown in the jowls.

Danno · 08-02-2016, 01:14 PM

Last year Delvin Breaux looked great in TC. How did that translate?

|Mitch| · 08-02-2016, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Last year Delvin Breaux looked great in TC. How did that translate?

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08-02-2016, 11:36 AM	#11
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Improved D says Bobby and Deuce Originally Posted by jonnyrotten Press my agenda? If i am pressing an agenda then wouldn't you be doing the exact same thing in the opposite direction? It's so funny when people don't agree with the team going 16-0 and winning the superbowl everyone gets their feelings hurt. Do I want that to happen too? Of course! Do i want Breaux to be a top shutdown corner in the league? Of course! But I also have an ounce of realism about the entire situation. Breaux also got torched at times last year and this defense was epically bad. So you may have to overlook my "pessimism" when it comes to the saints defense being much improved through 5 days of camp. My Agenda...is to look at what is being said by commentators, both of who are ex-professional football players and then say, but we need to wait until they play a meaningful game. I don't know what agenda that is other than to say things sound somewhat better than last year and I am optimistic. 16-0, WTF, that is an exaggeration and if you look at my post they are not sunshine and rainbows. Much improved vs what my post said- somewhat better than the last two years. You're exaggerating the point I made to fit the narrative you need it to fit in order to come back with a comment like that. Somewhat better is not the same as much improved...second, I openly stated but we need to wait and see what happens when a meaningful game is played. I never said much improved.
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08-02-2016, 11:39 AM	#12
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: Improved D says Bobby and Deuce Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 Every training camp, everything is roses and rainbows. Lets wait until they play a meaningful game before we start crowing them. Right now the defense still scares the bejesus out of me until they prove it Originally Posted by spkb25 Still have to wait until we play a game that means something, but sounds at least somewhat better than last two seasons. Exactly what the post said- have to wait for a meaningful game, agree.

08-02-2016, 11:46 AM	#13
jonnyrotten 500th Post Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 511	Re: Improved D says Bobby and Deuce Originally Posted by spkb25 My Agenda...is to look at what is being said by commentators, both of who are ex-professional football players and then say, but we need to wait until they play a meaningful game. I don't know what agenda that is other than to say things sound somewhat better than last year and I am optimistic. 16-0, WTF, that is an exaggeration and if you look at my post they are not sunshine and rainbows. Much improved vs what my post said- somewhat better than the last two years. You're exaggerating the point I made to fit the narrative you need it to fit in order to come back with a comment like that. Somewhat better is not the same as much improved...second, I openly stated but we need to wait and see what happens when a meaningful game is played. I never said much improved. Sorry Spk, that wasn't to suggest you specifically said those things as much a rhetorical comment about predictions and the crazy optimism that often times gets thrown around on the board. I as much as anyone desperately want to see improvements and have to constantly remind myself to temper the expectations I have when I hear the constant reporting of how amazing everyone is in camp. Other teams I am sure are reporting the same great things about their players, and it just doesn't necessarily translate into W's and record breaking stats. skymike likes this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Improved D says Bobby and Deuce Originally Posted by RaginCajun83 Every training camp, everything is roses and rainbows. Lets wait until they play a meaningful game before we start crowing them. Right now the defense still scares the bejesus out of me until they prove it Agreed!! But I still find myself at times wanting to beat the drum a little . But on the flip side I bought what was said about the D before just to watch a bunch of grown pro. atheletes play like a pee-wee team. spkb25 likes this.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Improved D says Bobby and Deuce yeah you can't get any worse so saying improved is a safe bet but the problem this time of year is when all the bandwagon gathers and talks we are the best D on paper we have the best O on paper what do you mean we aren't going to the SB. We should beat the Falcons 100-0. You have to take each game - game by game. jonnyrotten likes this.

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WillMacKenzie 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,627	Re: Improved D says Bobby and Deuce haha you can tell it's training camp, getting a little salty. At this point, for me, other games can go either way -- as long as we clip the dirty bird's wings, and cause cam newton's season implode. I bet Harper can't wait to hit that clown in the jowls.

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