NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE

spkb25 · 08-23-2016, 07:07 PM

If I'm Loomis I am on the phone with stinchcomb right now offering 3 years 12.5 m with a 3.5 mil signing bonus, 90% guaranteed

Danno · 08-23-2016, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

If I'm Loomis I am on the phone with stinchcomb right now offering 3 years 12.5 m with a 3.5 mil signing bonus, 90% guaranteed

I'm pretty sure Loomis is checking his list of available free-agents, potential cuts and potential trade scenarios.

WhoDatFan26 · 08-23-2016, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

That is your opinion. It's wrong. But it is your opinion and you have the right to it.

Hey, I'm pretty sure I'm correct but then again you did tell us that the Drew Brees extension was signed sealed and delivered. You know no more than anyone else on this forum. Everyone has there opinion and not one person is always right. Please stop acting like you're The Mouth to God's Ear, You're Not.

WhoDatFan26 · 08-23-2016, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Judging a RT on how well JJWatt does against you is foolish. He had 3 bad games in 2015 and played very well in the other 13.

Why must people focus on the 2 or 3 bad games instead of the 13 or 14 good ones?

No doubt he's starting to lose his battle with father time, but he didn't suck.

In fact Evans had a worse grade over the last few years than Strief did, and guess what, the coaches let Evans walk. Perhaps what you saw was Evans sucking and you blaming it on Strief?

I guess the Tampa Bay Game didn't have anything to do with Strief either? Get over yourself.

Danno · 08-23-2016, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26

I guess the Tampa Bay Game didn't have anything to do with Strief either? Get over yourself.

Not quite sure what to say about that. I've been over myself for about 40 years now because... well I'm an awesome dude who's superior to all other humans on this planet. Not sure about all the other planets yet, but I'll stand pat until proven otherwise.

You pointed to a whopping 2 out of 16 games. That's not really helping you prove your point. And adding an insult to the end of it certainly doesn't help.

Do you have anything significant or even relevant to help prove your point?

Insults omitted.

K Major · 08-23-2016, 07:44 PM

Meanwhile the defense is improving by the day ...

Danno · 08-23-2016, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Meanwhile the defense is improving by the day ...

Its encouraging that the improvement is at nearly every position

DE's look better than last year with Edebali, Tull and Gwatchum improving
The DT's look phenomenally better with Fairley, Davison, Rankins and even Jenkins looking solid

The LBs? Wow, we can actually cover now, and we have speed. Whens the last time speed and Saints LB"s were used in the same sentence?

The CB's... may actually be the strength of our Defense. Wow, did I just say that?

The safeties look as strong and deep as anytime I can remember. I think our final cut at safety could probably start on numerous teams.

Disclaimer... YES, WE ALL KNOW ITS ONLY PRE-SEASON so give it a rest already.

WhoDatFan26 · 08-23-2016, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Not quite sure what to say about that. I've been over myself for about 40 years now.

You pointed to a whopping 2 out of 16 games. That's not really helping you prove your point. And adding an insult to the end of it certainly doesn't help.

Do you have anything significant or even relevant to help prove your point?

Insults omitted.

Strief has been done since 2013. I don't care what statistic say. According to Statistics the offense was just as explosive last year as it was in the previous 2 years. Do you believe that also? I can throw for 500 yards after being down 35 and lose by 7, does that make it close? Get out of here with that BS!! Can you honestly say that watching Strief the last 2 years, you feel that he is as good as they statistically say he is? Seriously?!

Danno · 08-23-2016, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26

Strief has been done since 2013. I don't care what statistic say. According to Statistics the offense was just as explosive last year as it was in the previous 2 years. Do you believe that also? I can throw for 500 yards after being down 35 and lose by 7, does that make it close? Get out of here with that BS!! Can you honestly say that watching Strief the last 2 years, you feel that he is as good as they statistically say he is? Seriously?!

So you admit that you don't care what statistics say, but then follow it with faulty statistics.

We were rarely down by more than a score or two so the whole garbage points argument is severely flawed.

How many games were we down 35 points and put up a ton of garbage points? Uhh, none. "Get out of here with that BS!!"

Bring something relevant or STFU. When you're buried in a hole, quit digging.

RaginCajun83 · 08-23-2016, 09:12 PM

It's not just Strief but as of right now there's only two players that should be starting in the NFL and that's Unger and Armstead. The other three are garbage

08-23-2016, 07:07 PM	#41
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE If I'm Loomis I am on the phone with stinchcomb right now offering 3 years 12.5 m with a 3.5 mil signing bonus, 90% guaranteed

08-23-2016, 07:10 PM	#42
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Originally Posted by spkb25 If I'm Loomis I am on the phone with stinchcomb right now offering 3 years 12.5 m with a 3.5 mil signing bonus, 90% guaranteed I'm pretty sure Loomis is checking his list of available free-agents, potential cuts and potential trade scenarios.

08-23-2016, 07:31 PM	#43
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Originally Posted by AsylumGuido That is your opinion. It's wrong. But it is your opinion and you have the right to it. Hey, I'm pretty sure I'm correct but then again you did tell us that the Drew Brees extension was signed sealed and delivered. You know no more than anyone else on this forum. Everyone has there opinion and not one person is always right. Please stop acting like you're The Mouth to God's Ear, You're Not. saintshrimp likes this.
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08-23-2016, 07:32 PM	#44
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Originally Posted by Danno Judging a RT on how well JJWatt does against you is foolish. He had 3 bad games in 2015 and played very well in the other 13. Why must people focus on the 2 or 3 bad games instead of the 13 or 14 good ones? No doubt he's starting to lose his battle with father time, but he didn't suck. In fact Evans had a worse grade over the last few years than Strief did, and guess what, the coaches let Evans walk. Perhaps what you saw was Evans sucking and you blaming it on Strief? I guess the Tampa Bay Game didn't have anything to do with Strief either? Get over yourself.
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08-23-2016, 07:40 PM	#45
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 I guess the Tampa Bay Game didn't have anything to do with Strief either? Get over yourself. Not quite sure what to say about that. I've been over myself for about 40 years now because... well I'm an awesome dude who's superior to all other humans on this planet. Not sure about all the other planets yet, but I'll stand pat until proven otherwise. You pointed to a whopping 2 out of 16 games. That's not really helping you prove your point. And adding an insult to the end of it certainly doesn't help. Do you have anything significant or even relevant to help prove your point? Insults omitted.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Originally Posted by K Major Meanwhile the defense is improving by the day ... Its encouraging that the improvement is at nearly every position DE's look better than last year with Edebali, Tull and Gwatchum improving The DT's look phenomenally better with Fairley, Davison, Rankins and even Jenkins looking solid The LBs? Wow, we can actually cover now, and we have speed. Whens the last time speed and Saints LB"s were used in the same sentence? The CB's... may actually be the strength of our Defense. Wow, did I just say that? The safeties look as strong and deep as anytime I can remember. I think our final cut at safety could probably start on numerous teams. Disclaimer... YES, WE ALL KNOW ITS ONLY PRE-SEASON so give it a rest already. SaintFanInATLHELL, frydaddy and K Major like this.

08-23-2016, 07:52 PM	#48
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Originally Posted by Danno Not quite sure what to say about that. I've been over myself for about 40 years now. You pointed to a whopping 2 out of 16 games. That's not really helping you prove your point. And adding an insult to the end of it certainly doesn't help. Do you have anything significant or even relevant to help prove your point? Insults omitted. Strief has been done since 2013. I don't care what statistic say. According to Statistics the offense was just as explosive last year as it was in the previous 2 years. Do you believe that also? I can throw for 500 yards after being down 35 and lose by 7, does that make it close? Get out of here with that BS!! Can you honestly say that watching Strief the last 2 years, you feel that he is as good as they statistically say he is? Seriously?! RaginCajun83 likes this.
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08-23-2016, 08:03 PM	#49
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Originally Posted by WhoDatFan26 Strief has been done since 2013. I don't care what statistic say. According to Statistics the offense was just as explosive last year as it was in the previous 2 years. Do you believe that also? I can throw for 500 yards after being down 35 and lose by 7, does that make it close? Get out of here with that BS!! Can you honestly say that watching Strief the last 2 years, you feel that he is as good as they statistically say he is? Seriously?! So you admit that you don't care what statistics say, but then follow it with faulty statistics. We were rarely down by more than a score or two so the whole garbage points argument is severely flawed. How many games were we down 35 points and put up a ton of garbage points? Uhh, none. "Get out of here with that BS!!" Bring something relevant or STFU. When you're buried in a hole, quit digging.

08-23-2016, 09:12 PM	#50
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE It's not just Strief but as of right now there's only two players that should be starting in the NFL and that's Unger and Armstead. The other three are garbage WhoDatFan26 likes this.

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