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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by The Dude I don't know where you get your info but Strief grades out pretty high at his position. He did better than Most other players in the league against JJ Watt last year. Watt did school ...

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Old 08-23-2016, 04:58 PM   #1
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Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE

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I don't know where you get your info but Strief grades out pretty high at his position. He did better than Most other players in the league against JJ Watt last year.
Watt did school him a couple of times but he does that to everyone. Strief is a lot better than most give him credit for.
Look up some stats on him compared to others in the league and you will be surprised

No Strief sucks. I don't care what the grade is, he is done. He has been done for the last 2 years. The only reason that he is starting is due to the fact Peat isn't ready to be The Full Time RT. In fact he may never be ready. I mean, JJ Watt was pleading with Coach Payton to better protect Drew Brees in last years game. I mean, come on man if that isn't an indication that Strief is done then nothing else will. Plus, a lot of Strief's success has to do with Drew's release and the fact that Evans was there to assist him for the last 5 years.
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Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE

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No Strief sucks. I don't care what the grade is, he is done. He has been done for the last 2 years. The only reason that he is starting is due to the fact Peat isn't ready to be The Full Time RT. In fact he may never be ready. I mean, JJ Watt was pleading with Coach Payton to better protect Drew Brees in last years game. I mean, come on man if that isn't an indication that Strief is done then nothing else will. Plus, a lot of Strief's success has to do with Drew's release and the fact that Evans was there to assist him for the last 5 years.
That is your opinion. It's wrong. But it is your opinion and you have the right to it.
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Old 08-23-2016, 06:31 PM   #3
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That is your opinion. It's wrong. But it is your opinion and you have the right to it.
Hey, I'm pretty sure I'm correct but then again you did tell us that the Drew Brees extension was signed sealed and delivered. You know no more than anyone else on this forum. Everyone has there opinion and not one person is always right. Please stop acting like you're The Mouth to God's Ear, You're Not.
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Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE

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No Strief sucks. I don't care what the grade is, he is done. He has been done for the last 2 years. The only reason that he is starting is due to the fact Peat isn't ready to be The Full Time RT. In fact he may never be ready. I mean, JJ Watt was pleading with Coach Payton to better protect Drew Brees in last years game. I mean, come on man if that isn't an indication that Strief is done then nothing else will. Plus, a lot of Strief's success has to do with Drew's release and the fact that Evans was there to assist him for the last 5 years.
Judging a RT on how well JJWatt does against you is foolish. He had 3 bad games in 2015 and played very well in the other 13.

Why must people focus on the 2 or 3 bad games instead of the 13 or 14 good ones?

No doubt he's starting to lose his battle with father time, but he didn't suck.

In fact Evans had a worse grade over the last few years than Strief did, and guess what, the coaches let Evans walk. Perhaps what you saw was Evans sucking and you blaming it on Strief?
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Old 08-23-2016, 06:32 PM   #5
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Judging a RT on how well JJWatt does against you is foolish. He had 3 bad games in 2015 and played very well in the other 13.

Why must people focus on the 2 or 3 bad games instead of the 13 or 14 good ones?

No doubt he's starting to lose his battle with father time, but he didn't suck.

In fact Evans had a worse grade over the last few years than Strief did, and guess what, the coaches let Evans walk. Perhaps what you saw was Evans sucking and you blaming it on Strief?
I guess the Tampa Bay Game didn't have anything to do with Strief either? Get over yourself.
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I guess the Tampa Bay Game didn't have anything to do with Strief either? Get over yourself.
Not quite sure what to say about that. I've been over myself for about 40 years now because... well I'm an awesome dude who's superior to all other humans on this planet. Not sure about all the other planets yet, but I'll stand pat until proven otherwise.

You pointed to a whopping 2 out of 16 games. That's not really helping you prove your point. And adding an insult to the end of it certainly doesn't help.

Do you have anything significant or even relevant to help prove your point?

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Not quite sure what to say about that. I've been over myself for about 40 years now.

You pointed to a whopping 2 out of 16 games. That's not really helping you prove your point. And adding an insult to the end of it certainly doesn't help.

Do you have anything significant or even relevant to help prove your point?

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Strief has been done since 2013. I don't care what statistic say. According to Statistics the offense was just as explosive last year as it was in the previous 2 years. Do you believe that also? I can throw for 500 yards after being down 35 and lose by 7, does that make it close? Get out of here with that BS!! Can you honestly say that watching Strief the last 2 years, you feel that he is as good as they statistically say he is? Seriously?!
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Strief has been done since 2013. I don't care what statistic say. According to Statistics the offense was just as explosive last year as it was in the previous 2 years. Do you believe that also? I can throw for 500 yards after being down 35 and lose by 7, does that make it close? Get out of here with that BS!! Can you honestly say that watching Strief the last 2 years, you feel that he is as good as they statistically say he is? Seriously?!
So you admit that you don't care what statistics say, but then follow it with faulty statistics.

We were rarely down by more than a score or two so the whole garbage points argument is severely flawed.

How many games were we down 35 points and put up a ton of garbage points? Uhh, none. "Get out of here with that BS!!"

Bring something relevant or STFU. When you're buried in a hole, quit digging.
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So you admit that you don't care what statistics say, but then follow it with faulty statistics.

We were rarely down by more than a score or two so the whole garbage points argument is severely flawed.

How many games were we down 35 points and put up a ton of garbage points? Uhh, none. "Get out of here with that BS!!"

Bring something relevant or STFU. When you're buried in a hole, quit digging.
Danno, from one fan to the next...learn how to humble yourself. Dude, there's a reason why every analyst is saying that our Offensive Line needs to be fixed. There is a reason why The Saints are still being attached to every rumor regarding this Leary guy in Dallas. If Strief is as good as you say, then we wouldn't shade Tight Ends and Backs to his side to chip the defenders before they come at Strief. One more thing, I wont be disrespected but if you feel the need to curse me send me a private message. Then lets see what you have to say.
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Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE

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So you admit that you don't care what statistics say, but then follow it with faulty statistics.

We were rarely down by more than a score or two so the whole garbage points argument is severely flawed.

How many games were we down 35 points and put up a ton of garbage points? Uhh, none. "Get out of here with that BS!!"

Bring something relevant or STFU. When you're buried in a hole, quit digging.
Give up, Danno. The guy obviously doesn't let facts stand in the way of a flawed viewpoint.
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