NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE

Danno · 08-23-2016, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

If I'm Loomis I am on the phone with stinchcomb right now offering 3 years 12.5 m with a 3.5 mil signing bonus, 90% guaranteed

I'm pretty sure Loomis is checking his list of available free-agents, potential cuts and potential trade scenarios.

K Major · 08-23-2016, 06:44 PM

Meanwhile the defense is improving by the day ...

Danno · 08-23-2016, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

Meanwhile the defense is improving by the day ...

Its encouraging that the improvement is at nearly every position

DE's look better than last year with Edebali, Tull and Gwatchum improving
The DT's look phenomenally better with Fairley, Davison, Rankins and even Jenkins looking solid

The LBs? Wow, we can actually cover now, and we have speed. Whens the last time speed and Saints LB"s were used in the same sentence?

The CB's... may actually be the strength of our Defense. Wow, did I just say that?

The safeties look as strong and deep as anytime I can remember. I think our final cut at safety could probably start on numerous teams.

Disclaimer... YES, WE ALL KNOW ITS ONLY PRE-SEASON so give it a rest already.

halloween 65 · 08-23-2016, 09:48 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Its encouraging that the improvement is at nearly every position

DE's look better than last year with Edebali, Tull and Gwatchum improving
The DT's look phenomenally better with Fairley, Davison, Rankins and even Jenkins looking solid

The LBs? Wow, we can actually cover now, and we have speed. Whens the last time speed and Saints LB"s were used in the same sentence?

The CB's... may actually be the strength of our Defense. Wow, did I just say that?

The safeties look as strong and deep as anytime I can remember. I think our final cut at safety could probably start on numerous teams.

Disclaimer... YES, WE ALL KNOW ITS ONLY PRE-SEASON so give it a rest already.

Question for you? Is it looking better because our O is sputtering without a good run game making things one dimentional? I didn't think they were a ball of fire in the Texans game and thats with joint practice for a few days, just my opionion.

RaginCajun83 · 08-23-2016, 08:12 PM

It's not just Strief but as of right now there's only two players that should be starting in the NFL and that's Unger and Armstead. The other three are garbage

nutria · 08-23-2016, 09:29 PM

No running game is a problem.

No pass protection is a problem.

The Saints coaches probably know this.

Lets hope they have a rabbit up their sleeve.

44Champs · 08-24-2016, 09:03 AM

I think we all agree that the OLine needs improvement. At this time, only Armstead and Unger are solid. Every other player and position is a question mark. Whether Strief is "done" or not is irrelevant - he may not be the best RT in the league, but he's serviceable and the best one on our team until someone else can beat him out. It was my opinion during FA and the draft that OLine was more of a priority than the skill positions, and now that neglect is showing on the field. I love Can't Guard Mike, and I'm glad we have him, but what good will it do if Drew doesn't have the time to get the ball to him? What good is Lasko if our line can't open running lanes? As much as I hate Dallas, they've done a good job of building a top notch OLine that they make their mediocre skill players look good. Our offensive dominance from 2006 - 2013 was mainly due to our Oline and all of the options it gave Drew to make changes at the LOS if needed. "The game is won in the trenches"

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vpheughan · 08-24-2016, 10:21 AM

Coach Cliche here, "There is no tomorrow" "You can't coach that" "Our backs are against the wall" "Teamwork makes the Dream work" "He's not fast, he's quick" "It is what it is" last but not least "We have to get UN-tracked"

A.8Manning · 08-24-2016, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Coach Cliche here, "There is no tomorrow" "You can't coach that" "Our backs are against the wall" "Teamwork makes the Dream work" "He's not fast, he's quick" "It is what it is" last but not least "We have to get UN-tracked"

Teamwork makes the Dream work"

dont ever say that in public,never,ever again..just dont

(where the hell are the editing tools so I can convey i'm not being mean? I dont see anything above for bold,coloring,smileys etc)

44Champs · 08-24-2016, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by A.8Manning

Teamwork makes the Dream work"

dont ever say that in public,never,ever again..just dont

(where the hell are the editing tools so I can convey i'm not being mean? I dont see anything above for bold,coloring,smileys etc)

Reminds me of Schottenheimer's corny pre-game speech in '85: "There's a gleam, men. There's a gleam". wth did that even mean lol

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08-23-2016, 06:10 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Originally Posted by spkb25 If I'm Loomis I am on the phone with stinchcomb right now offering 3 years 12.5 m with a 3.5 mil signing bonus, 90% guaranteed I'm pretty sure Loomis is checking his list of available free-agents, potential cuts and potential trade scenarios.

08-23-2016, 06:44 PM	#2
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,797 Blog Entries: 3	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Meanwhile the defense is improving by the day ... Danno likes this.

08-23-2016, 06:51 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,751	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Originally Posted by K Major Meanwhile the defense is improving by the day ... Its encouraging that the improvement is at nearly every position DE's look better than last year with Edebali, Tull and Gwatchum improving The DT's look phenomenally better with Fairley, Davison, Rankins and even Jenkins looking solid The LBs? Wow, we can actually cover now, and we have speed. Whens the last time speed and Saints LB"s were used in the same sentence? The CB's... may actually be the strength of our Defense. Wow, did I just say that? The safeties look as strong and deep as anytime I can remember. I think our final cut at safety could probably start on numerous teams. Disclaimer... YES, WE ALL KNOW ITS ONLY PRE-SEASON so give it a rest already. SaintFanInATLHELL, frydaddy and K Major like this.

08-23-2016, 09:48 PM	#4
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Originally Posted by Danno Its encouraging that the improvement is at nearly every position DE's look better than last year with Edebali, Tull and Gwatchum improving The DT's look phenomenally better with Fairley, Davison, Rankins and even Jenkins looking solid The LBs? Wow, we can actually cover now, and we have speed. Whens the last time speed and Saints LB"s were used in the same sentence? The CB's... may actually be the strength of our Defense. Wow, did I just say that? The safeties look as strong and deep as anytime I can remember. I think our final cut at safety could probably start on numerous teams. Disclaimer... YES, WE ALL KNOW ITS ONLY PRE-SEASON so give it a rest already. Question for you? Is it looking better because our O is sputtering without a good run game making things one dimentional? I didn't think they were a ball of fire in the Texans game and thats with joint practice for a few days, just my opionion.

08-23-2016, 08:12 PM	#5
RaginCajun83 Hou Saints Fan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 5,050	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE It's not just Strief but as of right now there's only two players that should be starting in the NFL and that's Unger and Armstead. The other three are garbage WhoDatFan26 likes this.

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nutria Sac-A-Lait Join Date: May 2006 Location: Prairieville, LA Posts: 262	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE No running game is a problem. No pass protection is a problem. The Saints coaches probably know this. Lets hope they have a rabbit up their sleeve.

08-24-2016, 09:03 AM	#7
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE I think we all agree that the OLine needs improvement. At this time, only Armstead and Unger are solid. Every other player and position is a question mark. Whether Strief is "done" or not is irrelevant - he may not be the best RT in the league, but he's serviceable and the best one on our team until someone else can beat him out. It was my opinion during FA and the draft that OLine was more of a priority than the skill positions, and now that neglect is showing on the field. I love Can't Guard Mike, and I'm glad we have him, but what good will it do if Drew doesn't have the time to get the ball to him? What good is Lasko if our line can't open running lanes? As much as I hate Dallas, they've done a good job of building a top notch OLine that they make their mediocre skill players look good. Our offensive dominance from 2006 - 2013 was mainly due to our Oline and all of the options it gave Drew to make changes at the LOS if needed. "The game is won in the trenches" Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk Danno likes this.
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08-24-2016, 10:21 AM	#8
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,544	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Coach Cliche here, "There is no tomorrow" "You can't coach that" "Our backs are against the wall" "Teamwork makes the Dream work" "He's not fast, he's quick" "It is what it is" last but not least "We have to get UN-tracked"
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08-24-2016, 04:37 PM	#9
A.8Manning 100th Post Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 120	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Originally Posted by vpheughan Coach Cliche here, "There is no tomorrow" "You can't coach that" "Our backs are against the wall" "Teamwork makes the Dream work" "He's not fast, he's quick" "It is what it is" last but not least "We have to get UN-tracked" Teamwork makes the Dream work" dont ever say that in public,never,ever again..just dont (where the hell are the editing tools so I can convey i'm not being mean? I dont see anything above for bold,coloring,smileys etc)
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08-24-2016, 10:04 PM	#10
44Champs Site Donor Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 2,589	Re: NO SUGAR-COATING IT: Saints O-Line is TERRIBLE Originally Posted by A.8Manning Teamwork makes the Dream work" dont ever say that in public,never,ever again..just dont (where the hell are the editing tools so I can convey i'm not being mean? I dont see anything above for bold,coloring,smileys etc) Reminds me of Schottenheimer's corny pre-game speech in '85: "There's a gleam, men. There's a gleam". wth did that even mean lol Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk
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