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Great coaches win

We are barely hovering above .500 with Payton, one more losing season and we'll be 5-5 in terms of winning and losing seasons.

How much longer is he going to be classed as a successful coach? We won a superbowl nearly 7 years ago and have made 3 trips to the playoffs since.

We'll see how this season plays out, preseason is not making it look promising but another non-playoff season and I absolutely have to believe Payton is on his way out.

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LOL at the excuses some are coming up with. Did any of you stay on the channel to hear coach's presser after the game? I did. Guess what...he knows our O line is eff'd. He actually said the lines on both sides but specifically talked about the O line saying it's worrisome. Does that give you nice warm fuzzies? His presser looked like a mid season presser and he looked worn out already. I want to believe as much as the next guy but all the signs are pointing to a looong season.

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Harper said the team played without fire or passion. Thats a lot more worrisome to me than a couple holes here and there on the roster.

Has Payton lost that fire?

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I think he lost it after 2013. I just don't see the passion and fight in him anymore.

I believe Payton should be firmly on the hot seat, another losing season is not acceptable, anything less than a playoff appearance and I'd start looking at life after Sean.

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We haven't even played a game yet. The season hasn't even started.

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I don't think SP lost the fire, I think he has lost the ability to have the team respond

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If he gets fired I would get rid of all his cronies to. Bill Cowher would be my choice as HC.

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this preseason does not sit in isolation. It isn't like we were 9-7 and then 10-6 the last two seasons and there is reason for optimism. We have been bad two years in a row without an ounce of improvement. the oline is the worst it has ever been here, the worst. People saying these things without playing a game are because we have the last two seasons to go off coupled with this preseason.

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It was pretty obvious our OL stunk but you see how he deflecting the OL with the DL? The DL actually was pushing the 1 st two drives but Ben reading that he have 1 on 1 with a rookie D Harris on A Brown burned us (how can you pressure a qb if held the ball for less than 2 seconds) then P J Williams. Give me a f***** break.

I haven't seen them develop one rookie since M Colston. Breaux was not a rookie so don't even mention him. Cooks still questionable. Ingram, how can he fully develop with that OL?

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i'd like a tough guy like Bill, but I don't think Bill is coming back.