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depends on Amristead's health. We are bad, really bad. This is 3 straight games we have looked like this. The thing is we have looked liked this the two seasons prior to this. Just a bad team and looks like Sean doesn't get through anymore. Man it is bad

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Saintfan sayeth thy record shall be 6 and 10. 6 and 10 shall be thy record.

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The PIT offense is good, likely a top 3 offense, however our defense got destroyed... Might as well of not been on the field.

Our offense... Looked like ****, as it has for 3 games. Brees gets one good drive then gets pulled... I don't get it.

Our defense has appeared to be amazing in practice but maybe that's because the offense they are practicing against sucks.

I'll reserve predicting the season until after the first 4 games, but I will say they look like **** in the preseason so far.

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Starting to question if it's worth paying £140 for gamepass to watch this type of play

I mean I know it's preseason but come on! We haven't scored over 20 points yet!

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2 and 28?

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Is there any REALISTIC move that can be made to get us a pass rusher and a guard ASAP?

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Only O'Leary but it would be a 3rd or 4th to get it done

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That's not much of an upgrade.

I'd be more inclined to see what happens across the league after the final cuts are made.

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I originally thought Vegas was nuts having our record at 6-10. Now I think they were being generous. This team is bad. No if ands or butts. And to think they game planned for this game!! Going to be a loooooong season.

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With the #1 pick in the 2017 NFL Draft... The New Orleans Saints Pick....

saintfan :annoy:

We are so screwed.

http://thegamehaus.com/wp-content/up...-NFL-Draft.png

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So I have to wait for the replay to watch the game but I did see the AB TD felt like that should've been a pick honestly and the Jesse TD was bad communication have to watch the game to really get a good read on why we played so bad if it's minor fixable things or major & into deep but we need a pass rush bad

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Anybody selling ?

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Id take O'Leary in a heartbeat. Thought he was excellent for Dallas 2 years back

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The problem runs deeper than the players on the field. It goes all the way to the top of the organization. The time has come to make big changes. Sean thinks he can still coach but where is the proof. I'm not getting any younger and this team is not getting any better. I wonder what Rob Ryan is thinking...a penny for your thoughts. Just when we thought it couldn't get any worse. It's too much to wrap your head around. How many teams have gone winless in preseason and went on to make the playoffs?

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If this year does go bad i do think there should be a change from the very top down. The issue is with all the issues at boardroom level who is there in that is either in control snd the right frame of mind to make the changes

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So what your say'in is we don't have a chance? Horse Hockey.

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Funny you should mention RR. I thought for sure he was still calling the defense with that 10 yard off the receiver sheet we played the entire game.

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I think there needs to be a change if we don't make the playoffs

SP hasn't done anything with this team in nearly 3 years.

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Really missed those days we had Aaron Kromer as the OL coordinator. If it's not the guards ****** up the rb are fumbling. Somebody, hopefully Armsted or Unger take a strong leadership role to motivate the guards to perform better

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If we stink bad enough we could possibly get Fournette, although Sean Peyton would NEVER draft an LSU player in the first round.

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??????


Why draft a left tackle, A Peat that high in the draft when you have Armstead?

Why move S Anthony to a differ position when he perform admirable his rookie season? Developing your rookies look like a joke

Why not draft or trade for a OG in the draft?

You drafted 2 rb with the last pick of the draft, which one will you cut Murphy or Lasco? SHOULDVE PICKED La'el Collins!! So what if he wouldn't signed? We would've got a conditional pick in 2016 at the least now we gonna cut one of those picks anyway

What did they see in Grayson? I see more production from Dak Prescott and he is a rookie.

What the **** happen after the super bowl? Winning tradition went out the window. Just a handful look motivated to win the rest look like they just there for a check. Sean Payton included. Dammit go find your ex wife apologize to her and send that distraction back from where you found her cause she got you p**** whipped. Time to leave that nice climate area and bring these boys back to sunny south for OTA's

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I didn't like moving Anthony either or switching back to a 4-3 or giving the nod to a very unproven Allen as DC. We were an OLB and SS away from being a decent 3-4 D. It made me sick to watch Payton switch(again). Giving up draft picks don't help at all, there was Alexander from LSU, and the stud G at Arkansas sitting there we could have picked up in this last draft at G with one of those picks and used the other later to picked up a G late round also. I like Bell and Omy. the 2 players we gave 2 picks for but even us as fans could see Evans was done and Lelito is much better at C than G and no depth to even speak of on the O-line to develop into good G. Paytons not an idiot I think he thought he could get by with what we had and loaded up Allen to be sucessful which I think is going to bite him in the a$$ and it should for being cute from cutting corners on the O and hiring his unproven buddy who wouldn't make a pimple on Gregg Williams a$$.

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yeah its a train wreck. People that say preseason dosnt matter dont know football. This team cant beat NE or any good team on turf in the regular season. Im pretty sure what is wrong is coaching, but not positive because there is so much wrong on so many levels its hard to figure out, but what I do know is we cant beat good teams so 8-8 at best right now.

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It' was pretty bad last night. I looked at the schedule after the game last night and 6 games I give us being generous. I don't see Brees here after this season, he'll know how Archie felt for years at this rate. Payton got away from his bread and butter, a strong O-line.

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Good hell. I didn't watch the game....maybe I'm glad. Sounds as though I would've completely lost all hope for the season. Well, if we're really that bad, I get to be blissfully unaware for a couple more weeks.

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sticking with 10-6

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god bless...don't know how, but man I frigan hope you're right...really do

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SP has had 5 wining seasons and 4 losing seasons. Can we really call him a good NFL coach?

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I honestly don't see it.

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Some "Well Respected" member of this board claims to have two sources on the "inside" of the Saints Front Office. Two years ago he claimed the Saints had "No Plan" for the upcoming draft. The one that ended up almost all defense!

What say you now?



Don't forget: "We may have lost the game but they'll be hurting today" That's what's most important!!!

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Gonna be a long season boys and girls. That was pitiful last night.

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No way I see this team being able to win 10 games. Let's just face it. We do not have good players at least not enough good ones to compete. The evaluation of talent has been horrible what is high character without talent. It has been a steady slide downward to the point that it is almost comical. With this offensive line I do not see Brees being able to get through the year injury free. It has almost turned me off to watching football.

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The OLine is a concern. But, they are solid if healthy. The offense will be good. With Brees, Cooks, Snead, Thomas, Fleener, and a healthy Spiller added to the mix, I'm not worried about the offense. The defensive lack of pressure is a concern. The loss of Rankins in the mix is big. Now, they're going to have to try and create pressure. Which in turn puts more pressure on a young, albeit, talented secondary. The LB's are solid. Things have to bounce right, but this team could go 10-6.

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I once found this beautiful turd outside. I cleaned it and polished it every day. It was very shiny, but at the end of the day it was still a turd

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Yeah I share in the frustration. You come home give us something to get excited about first 4 series give us something and then coast. There was little to nothing I can take away that we are a play off team.

The D is still a major problem and not our O-line is going to get Bree's killed. We still don't have a running game. I never liked Ingram for the most part and he hasn't changed that one bit.

Seems like this is the season our only dreams are to see who gets the top picks in the draft.

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I should have know, when I hear on the radio that the Defense looks good at camp. Out doing the O, int's on brees. Sacks from the from line if they were in a game.
Christ, they are both just bad. Young to experience just bad.
I feel like someone just sold me a lemon car off of ebay.

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You have to "Want" to buy! Was it "Sold" to you or did you "BUY" it?

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what evidence can you show that demonstrates the oline is good when healthy?

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Me too. They didn't look good last night but they didn't look as pathetic as many are saying.

I saw some encouraging signs from a very very young team. We may have the youngest starting defense in the league when the season starts. And we're probably just as young on offense without Strief and Brees.

Pittsburgh has an explosive offense (3rd best in the NFL) and they targeted our rookie CB's through the air.

We'll be fine, although another injury to Armstead is as concerning as an injury to Brees. If we lose that cat, we're in big trouble.

"We've kept things very simple up to this point and so it's not like we're out there with a great game plan and trying to trick people and throwing the kitchen sink at them." -- Drew Brees.

I'm sticking with 10-6, but I am a little bit more nervous about it now.