Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 717486)

Oh, and what you are giving now are unsubstantiated claims, as well. Wait until the real product takes the field in a real game against a real defense.

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 717490)

I'll tell you what's shortsighted, and that is your interpretation of my post.

Did I say THE worst? No, I said it was AMONG the worst LAST YEAR. This is an article about a grade given to last year's performance by the line.

Do I think it's still bad? Yes. I sure do. There is exactly one different starter from last year, and he is a second year player who has struggled. I haven't proclaimed it the worst line this year. I am always watching for improvement. But I reserve the right to have a certain expectation. But that's all beside the point. This was a reaction to a grade given from last year. I have consistently pointed out the fallacies of their grades over the years.

So maybe you should back off. Can YOU do that?

Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 717495)

Okay asylum what will it take for you to finally see and admit that they are bad how many games one two three Or after 16 games will you finally admit that they're bad

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 717497)

The starters haven't played a game together this preseason.

I guess one could say thats bad because they haven't gelled, but one could also ask how can you judge an O-line that hasn't even played all 5 starters for a single snap yet.

My intuition says they'll be no worse than last year and likely a lot better. Meaning we'll still be a top 5 offense.

The defense was the problem, and it looks like we've upgraded every unit top to bottom.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 717496)

You said, "The offensive line that is UNIVERSALLY acknowledged by observers everywhere as one of the worst in the league." You appeared to agree with that unfounded assessment. You can dismiss PFF if you wish, but then you should also dismiss all of that supposed UNIVERSE that says they are one of the worst in the league. Just wait until you have actually seen them in real action.

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 717503)

That is based on their past performance. When commenting directly about a grade from last year, I shouldn't have to spell that out. It isn't unfounded. Everyone could see it. I don't care if you want to blow sunshine up the butt of every person associated with the team. But I'm someone who believes in calling it as I see it.

You have no legitimate argument to defend this line. You have only repeated that we should wait to see them. We have seen them many times. I don't know what magic potion you think they have taken to solve all their issues.

Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 717504)

Danno
I have no doubt that they'll be a top offense no question they've been one ever since Sean has been here but they've had one for the last 10 years in the last three years we've been a below-average team and it starts up front this team is unable to sustain drives On a consistent basis
Drew id going to put up his numbers there's no question about that none