Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 717519)

Danno, I don't know how many times we have to have this argument on here. Throwing the ball 50 times a game will always yield big yards. But it also leads to interceptions and sacks/sack fumbles. And at the end of the day we aren't putting up more than 25 a game, which is about average for a half decent offense now. The offensive ranking is extremely hollow.

The question was about the offensive line, not where we rank in yards.

The defense rightfully takes a lot of the blame. There have been ten thousand threads about that. This team has been bottom of the league in rushing, gives up tons of pressures, and just doesn't sustain enough drives, particularly in the biggest games. They can still feast when going against defenses ranked in the lower half.

Originally Posted by Halo (Post 717522)

All ya'll on all sides of the arguments can blame Brees, Offense, too many yard, lack of points, better offensive line, suck offensive line, whatever --- in the end I blame Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis. They have had a lot of talent in recent years ---

• Wasted draft picks (Greyson is typical, could have had more o-line).
• Playcall gets too ambitious.
• Too quick to pass, not enough mix of pass and run.
• Can't beat teams who smack us in the face.

That said, I hope I'm wrong and I hope we go all the way and shut my chubby azz up!

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 717525)

If we had a decent defense we might not have to air it out so much.

And its not just yards we lead the league in year in and year out. Its nearly every relevant statistical category there is.

We were top 10 in PPG for the last 2 years, and most points per drive.

Not buying it BM.

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 717527)

yep, look at the dead money ect.

Originally Posted by Halo (Post 717522)

All ya'll on all sides of the arguments can blame Brees, Offense, too many yard, lack of points, better offensive line, suck offensive line, whatever --- in the end I blame Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis. They have had a lot of talent in recent years ---

• Wasted draft picks (Greyson is typical, could have had more o-line).
• Playcall gets too ambitious.
• Too quick to pass, not enough mix of pass and run.
• Can't beat teams who smack us in the face.

That said, I hope I'm wrong and I hope we go all the way and shut my chubby azz up!

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 717528)

I've made the exact same arguments, Danno, but they are convinced the offensive is one of the worst in the NFL. I'm giving up.

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 717525)

If we had a decent defense we might not have to air it out so much.

And its not just yards we lead the league in year in and year out. Its nearly every relevant statistical category there is.

We were top 10 in PPG for the last 2 years, and most points per drive.

Not buying it BM.

Originally Posted by Halo (Post 717522)

All ya'll on all sides of the arguments can blame Brees, Offense, too many yard, lack of points, better offensive line, suck offensive line, whatever --- in the end I blame Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis. They have had a lot of talent in recent years ---

• Wasted draft picks (Greyson is typical, could have had more o-line).
• Playcall gets too ambitious.
• Too quick to pass, not enough mix of pass and run.
• Can't beat teams who smack us in the face.

That said, I hope I'm wrong and I hope we go all the way and shut my chubby azz up!

Originally Posted by burningmetal (Post 717533)

I blame those guys all the time. Right now I'm commenting on players, but there's no question I think the staff has dropped the ball. But, you know, some posters don't want to hear that either. It's a big love fest until it isn't. I can't figure it out.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 717528)

I've made the exact same arguments, Danno, but they are convinced the offensive is one of the worst in the NFL. I'm giving up.