Originally Posted by Danno (Post 719074)

Oops, thats gonna leave a mark!!!

But, his past says he's better than both, but that was based on what we saw when he was with Buffalo. Its obvious since he was a scratch for week one that something was wrong that we didn't know about.

The Buffalo Spiller is better than Murphy or Lasco as a 3rd down back, no question. And I think thats what we all thought we were finally getting. But something was obviously wrong. Was it attitude, health? My guess is a combination of several things and since Murphy and Lasco excel at special teams, he was the most expendable.

It might still be true that Spiller >>> Murphy and Lasco as a starting RB in 2016, but not so much in overall team value when you throw in future potential and special teams.

So, did I successfully crawfish outta that one???:p

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 719087)

That honor belongs to Brees.

Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 719089)

What really make this a surprise, correct me if I'm wrong but since he wasn't cut before the season start don't that make part of contract guaranteed

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 719092)

If Spillers catches on with the right team he's going to hurt us. Atlanta comes to mind.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 719093)

It will take more than that with suckass Atlanta. LOL.

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 719095)

He isnt getting the 3rd down back role over Coleman

Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 719032)

behind that oline in preseason it might have been phenom, lmao

Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 719099)

I'm thinking somebody needs to be trying to hook Sean Payton back up with his ex-wife.

Post divorce the man is like an untied balloon you let go ahead - flying uncontrollably all over the place belching out hot air.


How many more to cut bait with? Let's just go ahead and hand out grades post-XLIV for free acency


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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 719074)

Oops, thats gonna leave a mark!!!

But, his past says he's better than both, but that was based on what we saw when he was with Buffalo. Its obvious since he was a scratch for week one that something was wrong that we didn't know about.

The Buffalo Spiller is better than Murphy or Lasco as a 3rd down back, no question. And I think thats what we all thought we were finally getting. But something was obviously wrong. Was it attitude, health? My guess is a combination of several things and since Murphy and Lasco excel at special teams, he was the most expendable.

It might still be true that Spiller >>> Murphy and Lasco as a starting RB in 2016, but not so much in overall team value when you throw in future potential and special teams.

So, did I successfully crawfish outta that one???:p

Originally Posted by nola_swammi (Post 719089)

What really make this a surprise, correct me if I'm wrong but since he wasn't cut before the season start don't that make part of contract guaranteed

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 719101)

And exactly how many teams have you coached to a single win in the NFL? Or exactly who was the first player you signed to an NFL contract?

Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 719111)

same could be said to you Mr.Know It All
God you are annoying

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 719101)

And exactly how many teams have you coached to a single win in the NFL? Or exactly who was the first player you signed to an NFL contract?

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 718997)

Id be very tempted to put Ireland in charge of recruitment if i was running things. Keep Loomis to run the team and count the beans but something needs to change.

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 718997)

I dont blame them for Byrd,he was a good player before he came here and shoild have been perfect for Ryans D but injuries have been tbe issue as much as anything.

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 718997)

But the rest have been bad for a while on the whole Fleener, Hawthorne,Spiller etc etc

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 719113)

I have never claimed to know it all. I just point out the fact that nobody else does either to those that think they do. None of us know crap.

Originally Posted by arsaint (Post 719114)

Dude why you attacking me? Exactly how many NFL teams have you coached? Players signed? Etc?

I'm as rose-colored glasses as most around here but I can see the self-inflicted wounds. This team is in self-destruct mode and looks like they are in total disarray. They look desperate.


How many YEARS now have we heard that there's just a little tweaking or a few adjustments to be made and this defense is STILL at the bottom of the NFL.

Don't you think 34 points should be enough to win a NFL game??? Last year we had a game where 49 points was not enough to win!

I may not be the love child of Bill Bellichek and Bill Walsh but I can figure out if you're scoring 30+ and losing every year you suck at defense...

Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 719116)

I just don't get you man. You wanna sit there and think your this high and mighty guru putting down everything anyone says. I just dont get it . You act just like a big bully. When you dont know anymore than anyone else around here.

Originally Posted by neugey (Post 719076)

What was the purpose of hanging onto Spiller for one week, rather than cutting him toward end of preseason with our other cuts? We could have kept Finnegan or at least some other cornerback.

I don't even want to get into last season, with the constant refusal to bench/cut Browner despite the fact that he single-handedly cost us at least two games last season. The whole 3-4/4-3/Rob Ryan fiasco last year and Payton's peculiar decisions about himself/Carmichael calling the plays. We just seem to have a lot of chronic unsettlement, if not dysfunction.

I was trying to put these things behind me, but Payton/Loomis keep doing things that make me think I shouldn't being doing that.

Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 719121)

That's your problem you think your the only one who cares about this team.

Originally Posted by K Major (Post 719123)

All valid concerns.

This costs us 2.6 million in cap space this year, but we gain that back next year in savings.

The only reason you cut him now is so you can eat the dead money this year and be done with it.

No one will ever confuse me as a GM but IMO it makes no sense. May as well cut JByrd while you are at it :mad:.

Whatever ... Giants are still suiting up on Sunday @ 12.

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 719124)

Hell, no! All of us care about his team, but the nonstop *****ing and the constant degradation and the unending trashfest doesn't accomplish anything except to piss off the majority of the fans.

Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 719129)

Your the one with the constant degradation and unending trashfest to other members just so you can make yourself feel better but you come across a jerk dude

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 719126)

In otherwords, there was a reason and we don't know why, but it is not important, right? Why the uproar by some then, huh?

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 719130)

I am a jerk. Who the hell cares. But I am a jerk that gets sick of the same old **** from the same five or six posters here on the board that can't do anything but *****.

Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 719127)

You seem too emotional about this board and the team...

Take a break, go get some fresh air.

You are taking people critiquing the team way too personally.

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 719132)

Maybe because Spillers is better than Cadet, jurys out on Murphy so far and Lasco is a rookie is what most people are looking at. I think thats what the uproar is about. I can't blame anyone about this. Cadet is not a gamechanger like Spillers could be. Cadets never had a good season to date. Example Spillers in the Dallas last season hurt. Cadet ... well nothing comes to mind... ever. Not to mention throwing money down the drain, this season or next, that money could be used on a player that could help. I totally get the frustration,because it's habitual.