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AsylumGuido 09-13-2016 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by spkb25 (Post 719171)
I got you, I don't really think it is any different. I think you came in around 07 and that was right after our first trip to an NFC championship game and right before the super bowl run. Then we '10 and especially '11 were good seasons, at least in terms of wins. Then the bounty gate and '12 season, but '13 we went back to the playoffs and won a game. The reason you think it is different is probably because this could be our 3rd straight losing season under SP and 4rth of last 5, and people feel like there is no direction with this team and we just keep cutting guys. Go back to the Haslett days and there was a hefty amount of *****ing. Know what, most seasons were like what Sean has been feeding us recently.
I migrated over, like many of us, from that hell hole, SR, which I joined in 1995. And, yes, there has always, and always will be, a degree of *****ing. When winning seven games is considered great there is *****ing when you win less. What we have now is leaps and bounds greater than what we have had since the early 90's.

AsylumGuido 09-13-2016 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 719176)
Hows that working out for you? You seem to be fueling the fire. Your anger is misplaced you shoukd be mad at the dead money , the piss poor free agents they sign, the sign to big deals then cut/trade, the piss poor drafting ability, the failure to develop talent ,the inability to field a average defense not at your fellow members that are sick of seeing bad football being played on the feild
What dead money? $5.6 million in dead money next season. That's among the lowest in the league.

saintshrimp 09-13-2016 10:27 PM
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This years 40 million

AsylumGuido 09-13-2016 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 719178)
What reason
You've hardly debated any points just spoke down to people who dont see sparkles on everything.

Im not here to get into arguments with people but ill put my point out whether its positive or negative as i feel it is. Fan boards are there to talk about the team,vent frustrations and celebrate victories together. Three years of pretty much .500 isnt good enough. The fact the team was terrible for a long time and would have been happy with that record means nothing. I dont have links to the city and no more than half a dozen people would know if up and went to another team. It'll never happen though,ill be there even if its 1-52 in the next few years.

But if i feel the need to vent frustrations and seeing the same issues for three years being repeated over and over i will do so.

You might find you win more people over if you debated some of the points brought up than just talked to people like they're stupid. Every person that ppsts here wants the team to do well. They can all see the bright spots but seeing the same **** and throwing games away for three years will bring out peoples frustrations. Had Sundays game come on the back of a 11-5 season people would be more forgiving than they are. Seeing the defense collapse and offense not kill the game and throw away a lead makes people crystals ball start showing the 2014/15 seasons over again.


Now lets just f*** last week off and get ready for next week
Bull****. I have debated and and posted fact after fact that have blown their *****ing points out of the water but they ignore FACTS and keep *****ing. Constant *****ing. Nonstop *****ing. Incessant *****ing.

halloween 65 09-13-2016 10:31 PM
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It's been interesting boys and girls, I'm going to bed. Sherlock out!!

4everSaint 09-13-2016 10:31 PM
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LOL at this point. What does Byrd have on this staff to stay safe is what I want to know?

AsylumGuido 09-13-2016 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 4everSaint (Post 719189)
LOL at this point. What does Byrd have on this staff to stay safe is what I want to know?
He's healthy for one thing.

jnormand 09-13-2016 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ChrisXVI (Post 719179)
What the hell happened to my Spiller thread?! LOL
Good hell I don't know. It's like a goddamned zoo in here. Lmao!

AsylumGuido 09-13-2016 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 719185)
This years 40 million
Who the hell cares? Nothing out there you can buy with $40 million THIS year. Don't you get it? Geez!

And once again, *****ing about something totally meaningless just for the sake of *****ing.

saintshrimp 09-13-2016 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 719192)
Who the hell cares? Nothing out there you can buy with $40 million THIS year. Don't you get it? Geez!

And once again, *****ing about something totally meaningless just for the sake of *****ing.
You don't get it perhaps just perhaps that's why this team isn't very good defensively and have to rely on undrafted cbs and ageing veterans

AsylumGuido 09-13-2016 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 719193)
You don't get it perhaps just perhaps that's why this team isn't very good defensively and have to rely on undrafted cbs and ageing veterans
No, I get the fact that our two of our top defensive draft choices who were both poised to have a huge impact both went down with injuries. And I get the fact that our best free agent CB (Lewis) blew out a knee and left a huge unexpected hole in the roster. And I get the fact that our top remaining CB broke a femur and was forced to leave a game in which he would probably have made a huge difference. Every team misses on free agents. Couple that with the key injuries we have faced and many would give up. I am not. This team can still win and I believe in them.

*****ing about things will not make them better, even if they did exist. Can we please stop the *****ing and just pull for our team to win? Or is *****ing simply too important to you?

Utah_Saint 09-13-2016 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 719115)
We haven't hit on a veteran free agent since Brees; jury's still out on Fairley.
It hasn't been all bad

Vilma was pretty good.
Lofton wasn't bad
Grubbs was solid
Jabari Greer was excellent
Keenan Lewis was a shut down corner until injuries
Randall Gay worked out well
Darren Sharper helped us get to the Super Bowl
Darren Sproles broke NFL records for the Saints
And we made out pretty well in the Jimmy Graham trade

AsylumGuido 09-13-2016 11:02 PM
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Thank you, Utah. :bng:

saintshrimp 09-13-2016 11:05 PM
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I do pull for them to win every week like I said in one of my threads I want them to win every game but I know the can't but in my perfect world its what I want them to win every week every single one. Just like everyone else here. However when your front office is cutting their nose off their face with bad moves its tough to be the positive Pete and nor question things they do at times

arsaint 09-13-2016 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by blackangold (Post 719127)
You seem too emotional about this board and the team...

Take a break, go get some fresh air.

You are taking people critiquing the team way too personally.
+1

AsylumGuido 09-13-2016 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 719198)
I do pull for them to win every week like I said in one of my threads I want them to win every game but I know the can't but in my perfect world its what I want them to win every week every single one. Just like everyone else here. However when your front office is cutting their nose off their face with bad moves its tough to be the positive Pete and nor question things they do at times
It's not like they want the bad moves. They can't read the future. It doesn't do any of us fans any good to worry and stress over what has been or what could have been or what might be because they are all out of our control. The one single thing that is in our control is to pull for them like I know we can all do, win or lose, and leave all of those other matters that we cannot affect aside. THAT is something that we all CAN do.

saintshrimp 09-13-2016 11:14 PM
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The reason why people are complaining is we have had a taste of winning and we remember what it was like when we had bags over our heads and we don't want to Go back to that.I sure as heck don't.however if they did I'd still be here but I rather be a fan of a winning team its way more fun

AsylumGuido 09-13-2016 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 719202)
The reason why people are complaining is we have had a taste of winning and we remember what it was like when we had bags over our heads and we don't want to Go back to that.I sure as heck don't.however if they did I'd still be here but I rather be a fan of a winning team its way more fun
We're together on that, for sure. But the complaining doesn't fix anything and gets in the way of enjoyment and that's what it is all about.

SaintsBro 09-13-2016 11:28 PM
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At this point, they should put the dead money figures up on the scoreboard along with the stats during the games every week. Or use the dead money players for the "Get loud!!!" or "Shhh! Offense At Work!" videos. Have dead money players compete in the Copeland's boat race or something. The team should get SOMETHING for their money, because this is getting ridiculous.

saintshrimp 09-13-2016 11:31 PM
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See I don't see it as complaining but more of having discussion's about what we as fans feel we need to do to get the ball rolling in the right directions. I don't think anyone actually thinks they can do or say anything that will sway the team in changing anything its more about letting out frustrations or things they would like to see more or less of

saintshrimp 09-13-2016 11:34 PM
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And if their negative it don t mean they are not fans it just means they care.

4everSaint 09-13-2016 11:37 PM
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Should start a Dead pool. Who is cut next...

saintshrimp 09-13-2016 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SaintsBro (Post 719204)
At this point, they should put the dead money figures up on the scoreboard along with the stats during the games every week. Or use the dead money players for the "Get loud!!!" or "Shhh! Offense At Work!" videos. Have dead money players compete in the Copeland's boat race or something. The team should get SOMETHING for their money, because this is getting ridiculous.
How about one of those flasing highway signs on the roads that mickey and sean use to get to work reminding them of the deadmoney and failed free agents. Especially at the beginning of free agency. And at draft time pictures of failed draft picks.

Danno 09-13-2016 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Utah_Saint (Post 719195)
It hasn't been all bad

Vilma was pretty good.
Lofton wasn't bad
Grubbs was solid
Jabari Greer was excellent
Keenan Lewis was a shut down corner until injuries
Randall Gay worked out well
Darren Sharper helped us get to the Super Bowl
Darren Sproles broke NFL records for the Saints
And we made out pretty well in the Jimmy Graham trade
And Goodwin
Fujita
Shanle
Dave Thomas
Heath Evans
Willie Snead
Lance Moore
Ben Watson
John carney
Gleason

Beastmode 09-14-2016 12:26 AM
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Getting this back on the pavement. So why was he cut? He was healthy for once so that was not the reason. He must have went off on not getting touches.

QBREES9 09-14-2016 01:06 AM
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WOW :popcorn:

jeanpierre 09-14-2016 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido (Post 719137)
There are no players that can help. We have what we have. The front office is doing the best they can with the ****ty hands we keep getting dealt.
Well that is the problem - It is Payton/Loomis that have dealt these hands to themselves; and I'll say what no one wants to: Because of the one Superbowl Victory in 50 years, they've been given immunity passes by Dennis Lauscha...

There's no way they still have jobs after the 2015 season if we're in New York, Chicago or Philadelphia...

I have faith in Payton as a coach, but not as a personnel man who has no one in the house to keep him in check or call him on questionable personnel moves, he should correct this system flaw and relinquish personnel oversight to Ireland and focus on game planning, game management...

Biggest issues are going back to draft management, lack of value on draft picks; especially this too often used practice of two picks to move up to grab players that have little to no impact on the team...

And while it's true they do an amazing last minute job to put something together (and it shouldn't come to that), but we should have been getting a *** D*mn pass rusher in free agency instead of Mullethead Fleener who drops the ball on THE pivotal third down play of the game...

Payton/Loomis have painted themselves into this corner...

jeanpierre 09-14-2016 02:05 AM
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And another thing, if we've cleared out enough cap space with Brees' contract extension...

And, if we're now cutting useless player(s) who's limiting success of this team regardless of cap impact...

And, if we're gonna spend two draft picks to move up and grab a player that is highly valued...

Then, we should be willing to cut Byrd who's been rarely available and move on to the Vonn Bell era...

dizzle88 09-14-2016 05:06 AM
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So, any reason as to why this has happened?

Payton should really do his homework before working to sign players.

Yeah Drew was the injured player that turned into a superstar, but after that we've signed Byrd and Spiller both injured. Byrd is flat out terrible and needs to be benched, Spiller never got a chance to prove he was healthy.

We literally have no direction, this team gives out big contracts and then gives up on that player the following season.

spkb25 09-14-2016 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 719208)
How about one of those flasing highway signs on the roads that mickey and sean use to get to work reminding them of the deadmoney and failed free agents. Especially at the beginning of free agency. And at draft time pictures of failed draft picks.
I say we keep a running total like they used to do for the national debt, that be kind of cool, lol

hagan714 09-14-2016 06:39 AM
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wow that was a year ahead of scheduled and kinda stupid. 2017 offered cap savings.

Byrd is now number one on my cut for cap list in 2017, followed by Zac

neugey 09-14-2016 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by saintshrimp (Post 719208)
How about one of those flasing highway signs on the roads that mickey and sean use to get to work reminding them of the deadmoney and failed free agents. Especially at the beginning of free agency. And at draft time pictures of failed draft picks.
You could change Mickey's screensaver to this -

https://dangerwaffles.files.wordpres...5/05/joker.gif

K Major 09-14-2016 07:44 AM
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Former Saints RB C.J. Spiller 'didn't see it coming,' he tells ESPN | NOLA.com

dizzle88 09-14-2016 07:48 AM
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Something is seriously wrong with Payton/Loomis, this happens far too often.

I'm surprised that Byrd hasn't been released yet, he hasn't been near a pass since his time with Buffalo.

The Dude 09-14-2016 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by |Mitch| (Post 719024)
I'm really starting to believe you have something wrong with you
I don't even know what that means in regards to my post. Other than the fact that cutting players isn't all completely on him.

ChrisXVI 09-14-2016 09:46 AM
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Halo 09-14-2016 09:55 AM
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After Delvin went down, don't ya'll think Sean Peyton did this to create a roster spot? They could barely fit Spiller in last weekend.

lee909 09-14-2016 10:01 AM
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Worth a look?

We have waived CB KeiVarae Russell (Notre Dame) and signed LB Dezman Moses (Tulane).

ChrisXVI 09-14-2016 10:22 AM
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Pretty weird that things have ended so amicably. We've gotten used to players talking crap or wives trashing the team. Hats off to Spiller for being a class act! Hope he goes on to find success wherever he may land.

jeanpierre 09-14-2016 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 719225)
wow that was a year ahead of scheduled and kinda stupid. 2017 offered cap savings.

Byrd is now number one on my cut for cap list in 2017, followed by Zac
Zac? Strief? Hagan, granted he's not what he was two years ago, but he's still steady and going to provide a level of protection better than twenty other right tackles in the league...

And until we've got something better, Go get'em Strief!


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