C.J. Spiller Released - Mistake or Necessity?

darstep · 09-15-2016, 11:05 PM

Originally Posted by MatthewT

If Spiller didn't know the playbook then it was the absolute correct decision to release him. I honestly like Mark Ingram as a receiver and think he has the ability to be what Pierre Thomas was.

He would need vision to be what PT was.
Ingram STILL runs up peoples back rather than break left or right.
CJ never impressed me. Probably never impressed Payton either.
We haven't had a PT since PT.
Screen was a BIG part of Sean Payton-Saint-Brees success.
It's a piece Payton has been looking for and hasn't found it since PT left.
CJ was a crap shoot and it just didn't work out.
Sproles replaced Reggie and we never lost a beat.
In fact, Sproles was an upgrade in efficiency.
The Sproles impact is also still a void.
The Graham impact is still a void.
Payton just has to figure out how to use what we have and get the most out of it.

jeanpierre · 09-14-2016, 11:29 AM

I'd support the decision if we do the same thing on the other side of the ball and release Byrd...

Then is truly shows the front office is consistent...

Utah_Saint · 09-14-2016, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

I'd support the decision if we do the same thing on the other side of the ball and release Byrd...

Then is truly shows the front office is consistent...

I would suspect that has much more to do with depth at the position. The Saints still have 4 more tailbacks after Spiller was released but if they released Byrd now, they'd only have 1 free safety on the roster. Also, Byrd's dead money hit this year would be $17 million but drops to $8mil next year.

AsylumGuido · 09-14-2016, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by Utah_Saint

I would suspect that has much more to do with depth at the position. The Saints still have 4 more tailbacks after Spiller was released but if they released Byrd now, they'd only have 1 free safety on the roster. Also, Byrd's dead money hit this year would be $17 million but drops to $8mil next year.

I agree with your first position, although dead money in the current period has no factor in the decision since that money is already spent.

Beastmode · 09-14-2016, 11:53 AM

Murphy can fill that roll easily. Hope to start seeing more of him and less of Cadet.

The Dude · 09-14-2016, 12:38 PM

I don't understand all the cadet hate. He's no Sproles but he performed admirably last year when Ingram went down. Good special teams player. A lot of bang for the buck.

dizzle88 · 09-14-2016, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I don't understand all the cadet hate. He's no Sproles but he performed admirably last year when Ingram went down. Good special teams player. A lot of bang for the buck.

Meh, he could do more, I find myself underwhelmed by him every year.

Remember week 17 last year vs Falcons, he fumbled on the 2 yard line right into the endzone, that would have put the game away, luckily our defense got an interception anyway.

Last week, dropping 2 straight passes on an important drive.

I just don't know, yeah he knows the offense but if he's really that smart I'd expect to see something in his play and he rarely shows anything.

Euphoria · 09-15-2016, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I don't understand all the cadet hate. He's no Sproles but he performed admirably last year when Ingram went down. Good special teams player. A lot of bang for the buck.

uhm his last game we could have started any high school player in the state and did just as good.

rezburna · 09-14-2016, 12:44 PM

I wonder who's on the trade block around the league.

K Major · 09-14-2016, 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I wonder who's on the trade block around the league.

Hadn't seen anything but as you already know, that could change at any given moment.

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09-15-2016, 11:05 PM	#1
darstep SaintSince67 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: PortCity Posts: 2,044	Re: C.J. Spiller Released - Mistake or Necessity? Originally Posted by MatthewT If Spiller didn't know the playbook then it was the absolute correct decision to release him. I honestly like Mark Ingram as a receiver and think he has the ability to be what Pierre Thomas was. He would need vision to be what PT was. Ingram STILL runs up peoples back rather than break left or right. CJ never impressed me. Probably never impressed Payton either. We haven't had a PT since PT. Screen was a BIG part of Sean Payton-Saint-Brees success. It's a piece Payton has been looking for and hasn't found it since PT left. CJ was a crap shoot and it just didn't work out. Sproles replaced Reggie and we never lost a beat. In fact, Sproles was an upgrade in efficiency. The Sproles impact is also still a void. The Graham impact is still a void. Payton just has to figure out how to use what we have and get the most out of it.
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09-14-2016, 11:29 AM	#2
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: C.J. Spiller Released - Mistake or Necessity? I'd support the decision if we do the same thing on the other side of the ball and release Byrd... Then is truly shows the front office is consistent...

09-14-2016, 11:47 AM	#3
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: C.J. Spiller Released - Mistake or Necessity? Originally Posted by jeanpierre I'd support the decision if we do the same thing on the other side of the ball and release Byrd... Then is truly shows the front office is consistent... I would suspect that has much more to do with depth at the position. The Saints still have 4 more tailbacks after Spiller was released but if they released Byrd now, they'd only have 1 free safety on the roster. Also, Byrd's dead money hit this year would be $17 million but drops to $8mil next year.

09-14-2016, 11:53 AM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: C.J. Spiller Released - Mistake or Necessity? Originally Posted by Utah_Saint I would suspect that has much more to do with depth at the position. The Saints still have 4 more tailbacks after Spiller was released but if they released Byrd now, they'd only have 1 free safety on the roster. Also, Byrd's dead money hit this year would be $17 million but drops to $8mil next year. I agree with your first position, although dead money in the current period has no factor in the decision since that money is already spent.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: C.J. Spiller Released - Mistake or Necessity? Originally Posted by The Dude I don't understand all the cadet hate. He's no Sproles but he performed admirably last year when Ingram went down. Good special teams player. A lot of bang for the buck. Meh, he could do more, I find myself underwhelmed by him every year. Remember week 17 last year vs Falcons, he fumbled on the 2 yard line right into the endzone, that would have put the game away, luckily our defense got an interception anyway. Last week, dropping 2 straight passes on an important drive. I just don't know, yeah he knows the offense but if he's really that smart I'd expect to see something in his play and he rarely shows anything.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: C.J. Spiller Released - Mistake or Necessity? Originally Posted by The Dude I don't understand all the cadet hate. He's no Sproles but he performed admirably last year when Ingram went down. Good special teams player. A lot of bang for the buck. uhm his last game we could have started any high school player in the state and did just as good.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,738 Blog Entries: 3	Re: C.J. Spiller Released - Mistake or Necessity? Originally Posted by rezburna I wonder who's on the trade block around the league. Hadn't seen anything but as you already know, that could change at any given moment.

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