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Spiller's weakness is that he struggles catching the ball out of the backfield. That has always been the book on him. The mistake was picking him up and trying to turn him into a Reggie Bush or a Darren Sproles.

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all in all given the secondary depletion they hung in pretty well. Rush is still a big issue.

OL once again was so so... so RB were the same. sos so

WR had way to many drops.

Fleener just can not jump.

Crawley played better but folded once again in crunch time.

So 0-2, back home for the falclowns.

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If we don't get a FG blocked, we win the game.

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Well, he is white, you know.

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This is true.

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I know. I try not to play the 'what if' game, but I'm allowing myself to do it with these guys. Young team. Trying to come together. Tons and more tons of adversity. We are either terrible or we're learning and this will pay off.

And I DO NOT think this is a 'terrible' team. I'm all in. On board. Hundred percent. Deal Saintfan in!

:bng:

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Very easy to say that, if we had gotten any points at all from the turnovers we would have won.

We threw away a game within our grasp, defense played admirably all day but Crawley messed up for the second straight week with the game on the line.

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Crawley wouldn't have been in the game at that point if it wasn't for injuries to Breaux and Williams. That cannot be helped.

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it dont matter now anyway but for a guy who loves so called facts Spiller had over 1400 yrds catching the ball in 5 yrs while cadet has less than 600 in 4 yrs .


Cadet has dropped several passes the past two weeks.why do people like this guy is beyond me nothing special at all

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Spiller also had worse guys throwing him the ball cadet had had Drew and Tom Brady and that's a couple of fun facts

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Spiller was a starter and Cadet has never been more than a spot player. As a starter you are going to have chances. But, Spiller in his SIX years had only one season with more than 269 yards receiving. Both Bush and Sproles averaged over 700 yards every season. He also has never had more than two receiving TD's in a season. Much inferior in the passing game.

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We ran the ball 13 times and threw the ball 44 times

In a tight game like this with anyone not named Cooks or Snead dropping everything in sight, that is simply not good enough.

We could have chewed some serious clock if we established the run.

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You can't run the ball on third and seven.

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What about 1st and 2nd down?

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We can't' run the ball period

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They ran it virtually every first down in the first half.

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Just had a look on the play by play and out of 13 first down plays we had in the second half, we ran the ball 4 times.

So in the first half we ran the ball 9 times, not checked what downs they were on though.

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Fred Jackson was the starter most of the time in buffalo

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True, but Spiller was used FAR more often than Cadet.

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If the Saints pick up after themselves like this Saints Fan above, there is hope.

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all i know about cadet is he has had two crucial drops the last two weeks, and neither were hard catches

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And how well did we do running the ball in the first half? You can't establish something that isn't working. Ingram didn't get his few decent caries until we started being somewhat effective through the air.

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I agree. But at least he can also play special teams where Spiller couldn't.

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They were both literally the same catch, something that Sproles and even Reggie Bush were money at making.

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The coaches and players keep saying;

"Yeah we are 0-2 but we are a couple of plays here and there from being 2-0"

Well that makes everything okay then, because all you've proven is when the plays to win the game present themselves, we fail to make them.

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Absolutely. I have never thought Cadet was the answer.

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They think we are playing horse shoes i guess

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Better than being 0-2 and never in the game.

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Bull. Spiller made the pro bowl a couple of years ago when he was getting big yards in the passing game as well as the run game. He got nicked up a bit in his last couple of years there, and the same thing happened last year. He looked outstanding in preseason. Cadet has been around and shown he brings little to the table.

You don't give that guy the contract they gave him if you don't think he brings something to the table.

Even if we accept your opinion, you are admitting either way that they made a mistake. They either shouldn't have signed him or shouldn't have cut him.

But... I thought we weren't allowed to say they made a mistake?

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Depends how you look at it I guess, if we fail to make game winning plays or get blown out we've lost either way.

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Look back. I said earlier in this thread that they made a mistake in signing him. The point I was arguing was that it wasn't a mistake to cut him when Breaux got injured. And Spiller never put up big yards in the passing game. He had somewhere around 460 yards once and never more than 269 in any other season.

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i dont know but i think i better start thinking of some creative signatures and taglines wouldnt you say Asylum

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Nope. 14-2, shrimp.

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There's a reason Spiller was used more in Buffalo than Cadet has here.

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Yeah he is far more talented

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When the game was on the line Manning went to Cruz and he converted

When we needed a score to go ahead, Brees looked at Coleman and Fleener, that's the problem.

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LMAO I knew you were nuts now it has been proven

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Fleener is soft.

Cadet inconsistent.

Coleman is a wasted roster spot.

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Yes, he was one of two main backs. The Saints had Ingram, Hightower and Khiry Robinson last season.

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The same way I have looked at every game, every season since 1967.