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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by dizzle88 For anyone saying that it's only injuries holding us back, check the stat that says we are 4-11 in last 15 home games. This problem starts with Payton, he has no direction with this team and ...

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Old 09-27-2016, 12:15 AM   #191
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 View Post
For anyone saying that it's only injuries holding us back, check the stat that says we are 4-11 in last 15 home games.

This problem starts with Payton, he has no direction with this team and is just making it up as he goes along.
No Dizz, there are still some dysfunctions with this team...

Draft Management, Flip-flopping on defensive philosophies, Draft Management, Bad Contracts/Dead Money, Draft Management, failure to commit to the run and Draft Management...

My point was that the guys that were "available" tonight, played their arses off...
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:18 AM   #192
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And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either
That's a great point...

Look, I wasn't happy when Dennis Allen was made DC and we were changing the defense, yet again, knowing we just spend the last three drafts getting players to fit a 3-4...

But D.A. is in now and we've made our change, let's just see it through and not reverse course again...
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:18 AM   #193
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And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either
Because New England plan for the future accordingly

In 2013 we had a decent D, we had drafted players suited to a 3-4 scheme and it worked

Then 2014 and 2015 Payton demands Rob Ryan move back to a 4-3 scheme, with a defense full of 3-4 players.

Payton has no idea what he wants, he will make someone the scape goat but more importantly, he will deflect any blame from himself or his buddies and fire someone that disagrees with him.
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:21 AM   #194
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No Dizz, there are still some dysfunctions with this team...

Draft Management, Flip-flopping on defensive philosophies, Draft Management, Bad Contracts/Dead Money, Draft Management, failure to commit to the run and Draft Management...

My point was that the guys that were "available" tonight, played their arses off...
Which 80-90% of that is Sean Paytons jurisdiction and therefore he should take the blame.
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:22 AM   #195
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Originally Posted by dizzle88 View Post
Because New England plan for the future accordingly

In 2013 we had a decent D, we had drafted players suited to a 3-4 scheme and it worked

Then 2014 and 2015 Payton demands Rob Ryan move back to a 4-3 scheme, with a defense full of 3-4 players.

Payton has no idea what he wants, he will make someone the scape goat but more importantly, he will deflect any blame from himself or his buddies and fire someone that disagrees with him.
And this is where I fault Loomis and ultimately, Benson...

Any team that has given one man too much personnel power has failed in this league (will cite Chip Kelly in Philadelphia as the latest example of this)...

Belichick, to his credit, brings in bright personnel people to challenge him and brings something other than "I'm the son of Coach (Fill In Name)" types...

Payton is still one of the best game planners, schemers, he just beats himself before he gets to the field with really bad personnel decisions and doesn't have a strong enough personality in a GM to take him to task or question him...
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Myles Garrett is gonna look real good in the black and gold!
Chris, are you an Aggie?!?
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Old 09-27-2016, 01:09 AM   #197
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On display tonight: slow linebackers and slow safeties. We probably have slowest defense in the NFL.
It was one thing to make Freeman look like Sonic the Hedgehog, but our defense was so slow and unthreatening that Matt Ryan didn't even feel like he needed to slide, multiple times. Matt Ryan! That was the ultimate insult.
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Chris, are you an Aggie?!?
Nah, just tired of seeing the sloooow Paul Kruger lined up at the 9 technique and not even sniffing the QB. It's not working.
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Nah, just tired of seeing the sloooow Paul Kruger lined up at the 9 technique and not even sniffing the QB. It's not working.
I think Kruger is sniffing the QB, but it's only because Matt Ryan has terrible body odor that carries yards away
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Re: Monday Night Football: Atlanta Falcons vs New Orleans Saints

Travaris Cadet, celebrating after a first down, while down three scores in the late 3rd/4th quarter, pretty much sums up this year and the recent Sean Payton, post-suspension era teams for me.
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