Monday Night Football: Atlanta Falcons vs New Orleans Saints

dizzle88 · 09-26-2016, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by saintshrimp

Next game watch Sean on the sidelines and I'll show you guy that has lost it.

You see Sean from 2006-2011 and he was constantly fired up, calling players out for poor play

Ever since the suspension he looks like he doesn't care anymore. It's not fair to the fans, he's messed this team up in a big way.

Yeah we've got injuries, so do New England, they will be starting a rookie or edelman at QB and still find a way to win.

Lord_Saint83 · 09-26-2016, 11:15 PM

And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either

jeanpierre · 09-26-2016, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83

And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either

That's a great point...

Look, I wasn't happy when Dennis Allen was made DC and we were changing the defense, yet again, knowing we just spend the last three drafts getting players to fit a 3-4...

But D.A. is in now and we've made our change, let's just see it through and not reverse course again...

dizzle88 · 09-26-2016, 11:18 PM

Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83

And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either

Because New England plan for the future accordingly

In 2013 we had a decent D, we had drafted players suited to a 3-4 scheme and it worked

Then 2014 and 2015 Payton demands Rob Ryan move back to a 4-3 scheme, with a defense full of 3-4 players.

Payton has no idea what he wants, he will make someone the scape goat but more importantly, he will deflect any blame from himself or his buddies and fire someone that disagrees with him.

jeanpierre · 09-26-2016, 11:22 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Because New England plan for the future accordingly

In 2013 we had a decent D, we had drafted players suited to a 3-4 scheme and it worked

Then 2014 and 2015 Payton demands Rob Ryan move back to a 4-3 scheme, with a defense full of 3-4 players.

Payton has no idea what he wants, he will make someone the scape goat but more importantly, he will deflect any blame from himself or his buddies and fire someone that disagrees with him.

And this is where I fault Loomis and ultimately, Benson...

Any team that has given one man too much personnel power has failed in this league (will cite Chip Kelly in Philadelphia as the latest example of this)...

Belichick, to his credit, brings in bright personnel people to challenge him and brings something other than "I'm the son of Coach (Fill In Name)" types...

Payton is still one of the best game planners, schemers, he just beats himself before he gets to the field with really bad personnel decisions and doesn't have a strong enough personality in a GM to take him to task or question him...

SaintsBro · 09-27-2016, 07:30 AM

Travaris Cadet, celebrating after a first down, while down three scores in the late 3rd/4th quarter, pretty much sums up this year and the recent Sean Payton, post-suspension era teams for me.

dizzle88 · 09-27-2016, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Travaris Cadet, celebrating after a first down, while down three scores in the late 3rd/4th quarter, pretty much sums up this year and the recent Sean Payton, post-suspension era teams for me.

Just like last season when Payton ran onto the field celebrating as if we'd won the superbowl, it was actually week 17 and our 7th win of the season, completely embarrassing.

K Major · 09-27-2016, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Travaris Cadet, celebrating after a first down, while down three scores in the late 3rd/4th quarter, pretty much sums up this year and the recent Sean Payton, post-suspension era teams for me.

Nick Fairley doesn't get a pass as well. Dancing (after a meaningless sack) as the clock runs, down by 3+ scores.

I don't get it.

dizzle88 · 09-27-2016, 07:58 AM

Side note, has anyone watched Hard Knocks: LA Rams?

Their D line coach is one tough SOB, Former marine and screams at the D line if they don't win in one on one drills.

The D line is probably the best unit on the Rams team, whilst we have Bill Johnson who looks like he enjoys too much processed food and is so far up Paytons rear, he can smell the Vicodin.

09-26-2016, 11:10 PM	#1
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,521	Re: Monday Night Football: Atlanta Falcons vs New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by saintshrimp Next game watch Sean on the sidelines and I'll show you guy that has lost it. You see Sean from 2006-2011 and he was constantly fired up, calling players out for poor play Ever since the suspension he looks like he doesn't care anymore. It's not fair to the fans, he's messed this team up in a big way. Yeah we've got injuries, so do New England, they will be starting a rookie or edelman at QB and still find a way to win. pherein and saintshrimp like this.

09-26-2016, 11:15 PM	#2
Lord_Saint83 100% Blunt Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Saint Gabriel, La Posts: 2,754	Re: Monday Night Football: Atlanta Falcons vs New Orleans Saints And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either

09-26-2016, 11:18 PM	#3
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Monday Night Football: Atlanta Falcons vs New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either That's a great point... Look, I wasn't happy when Dennis Allen was made DC and we were changing the defense, yet again, knowing we just spend the last three drafts getting players to fit a 3-4... But D.A. is in now and we've made our change, let's just see it through and not reverse course again... CharityMike likes this.

09-26-2016, 11:18 PM	#4
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,521	Re: Monday Night Football: Atlanta Falcons vs New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 And new england dont have square peg players to fit a round hole scheme on defense either Because New England plan for the future accordingly In 2013 we had a decent D, we had drafted players suited to a 3-4 scheme and it worked Then 2014 and 2015 Payton demands Rob Ryan move back to a 4-3 scheme, with a defense full of 3-4 players. Payton has no idea what he wants, he will make someone the scape goat but more importantly, he will deflect any blame from himself or his buddies and fire someone that disagrees with him.

09-26-2016, 11:22 PM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Monday Night Football: Atlanta Falcons vs New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by dizzle88 Because New England plan for the future accordingly In 2013 we had a decent D, we had drafted players suited to a 3-4 scheme and it worked Then 2014 and 2015 Payton demands Rob Ryan move back to a 4-3 scheme, with a defense full of 3-4 players. Payton has no idea what he wants, he will make someone the scape goat but more importantly, he will deflect any blame from himself or his buddies and fire someone that disagrees with him. And this is where I fault Loomis and ultimately, Benson... Any team that has given one man too much personnel power has failed in this league (will cite Chip Kelly in Philadelphia as the latest example of this)... Belichick, to his credit, brings in bright personnel people to challenge him and brings something other than "I'm the son of Coach (Fill In Name)" types... Payton is still one of the best game planners, schemers, he just beats himself before he gets to the field with really bad personnel decisions and doesn't have a strong enough personality in a GM to take him to task or question him... dizzle88 and Lord_Saint83 like this.
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09-27-2016, 07:30 AM	#6
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Monday Night Football: Atlanta Falcons vs New Orleans Saints Travaris Cadet, celebrating after a first down, while down three scores in the late 3rd/4th quarter, pretty much sums up this year and the recent Sean Payton, post-suspension era teams for me. Halo and dizzle88 like this.

09-27-2016, 07:43 AM	#7
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,521	Re: Monday Night Football: Atlanta Falcons vs New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by SaintsBro Travaris Cadet, celebrating after a first down, while down three scores in the late 3rd/4th quarter, pretty much sums up this year and the recent Sean Payton, post-suspension era teams for me. Just like last season when Payton ran onto the field celebrating as if we'd won the superbowl, it was actually week 17 and our 7th win of the season, completely embarrassing.

09-27-2016, 07:51 AM	#8
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,768 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Monday Night Football: Atlanta Falcons vs New Orleans Saints Originally Posted by SaintsBro Travaris Cadet, celebrating after a first down, while down three scores in the late 3rd/4th quarter, pretty much sums up this year and the recent Sean Payton, post-suspension era teams for me. Nick Fairley doesn't get a pass as well. Dancing (after a meaningless sack) as the clock runs, down by 3+ scores. I don't get it. jeanpierre and dizzle88 like this.

09-27-2016, 07:58 AM	#9
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,521	Re: Monday Night Football: Atlanta Falcons vs New Orleans Saints Side note, has anyone watched Hard Knocks: LA Rams? Their D line coach is one tough SOB, Former marine and screams at the D line if they don't win in one on one drills. The D line is probably the best unit on the Rams team, whilst we have Bill Johnson who looks like he enjoys too much processed food and is so far up Paytons rear, he can smell the Vicodin.