Kenny Vaccaro turns down day off, requests defensive players come in to watch film on Monday

Danno · 10-19-2016, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

I can with certainty it would be hard for the saints to give up three straight TDs and if Carolina was down 28-3 they would have certainly panicked. Nobody is out of it being down two TDs anymore. It seems though the offense only scores in the first two Qs and takes the third Q off. Offensive stats are inflated by fourth Q desperation. It's not about stats, it's about real time situations.

How are they inflated by 4th Quarter desperation? Which games were we way behind in the 4th quarter causing inflated stats? We were ahead in 4 of our 5 games. Hardly 4th quarter desperation.

Crusader · 10-16-2016, 11:01 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

We're 4th best in the NFL on converting 3rd downs.

Now now, don't destroy a good story by bringing actual facts...

The Dude · 10-17-2016, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

We're 4th best in the NFL on converting 3rd downs.

And we scored 40 points against what is still a pretty damn good defense. How on earth can anyone blame the offense???? It's the offenses job to score points and that's what they do.

AllSaints · 10-16-2016, 07:48 PM

I like it KV taking over

Euphoria · 10-16-2016, 08:02 PM

Start with the freakin' safteys not playing the ball!!! And not giving help over the top!!!

CharityMike · 10-16-2016, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

Start with the freakin' safteys not playing the ball!!! And not giving help over the top!!!

OMG..ikr..do they not teach our db's to turn there head? So many stupid PI penalties when all they had to do was turn there head and at least act like they are trying to play the ball.

QBREES9 · 10-16-2016, 08:41 PM

Good to see someone is stepping up.!

jnormand · 10-17-2016, 01:55 AM

I'm just happy we won 2 in a row.

jeanpierre · 10-17-2016, 02:50 PM

Not just words, but action...

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WillSaints81 · 10-17-2016, 02:54 PM

Back in 2009 and 2011

Did the saints quit after going 21-0?

What about against Carolina week 17 in 2011
It was back and forth shootout early 21- even and then saints took over and pulled away.

Where is the resiliency? 21 is not enough to win now or hold a lead. We were never a great defense. Maybe we are better off playing early in shootouts and winning late on defense like that packers game both times We have forgotten really how to win and even the fans have forgotten. I saw a lot of high scoring explosive games by us in 2011 where defense did just okay.

Did anyone seem to forget Carolina almost came back against Atlanta? It does not matter what defense you have, superstars are superstars. We are not God-like on defense and we are not gonna play a half effort as a team and keep superstars from doing something. When a team pulls within 21-10 that's a wake up call that you don't sit on a lead. The Pittsburgh steelers came back down 24-7 against Denver last year but is anyone saying Denver's a bad defense? No, it is called will to win. Whether you like it or not Carolina has that emotional aptitude to win just like we had in our glory years. We didn't play many teams back then like that. We actually started the whole reason teams have formed playmakers to compete with our offense.

You don't give a team who believes they are like the patriots a window to comeback. You can't stop aggression without JJ Watt.

10-19-2016, 11:16 AM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Kenny Vaccaro turns down day off, requests defensive players come in to watch film on Monday Originally Posted by WillSaints81 I can with certainty it would be hard for the saints to give up three straight TDs and if Carolina was down 28-3 they would have certainly panicked. Nobody is out of it being down two TDs anymore. It seems though the offense only scores in the first two Qs and takes the third Q off. Offensive stats are inflated by fourth Q desperation. It's not about stats, it's about real time situations. How are they inflated by 4th Quarter desperation? Which games were we way behind in the 4th quarter causing inflated stats? We were ahead in 4 of our 5 games. Hardly 4th quarter desperation.

10-16-2016, 11:01 PM	#2
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,039	Re: Kenny Vaccaro turns down day off, requests defensive players come in to watch film on Monday Originally Posted by Danno We're 4th best in the NFL on converting 3rd downs. Now now, don't destroy a good story by bringing actual facts... RockyMountainSaint likes this.

10-17-2016, 11:45 AM	#3
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,058	Re: Kenny Vaccaro turns down day off, requests defensive players come in to watch film on Monday Originally Posted by Danno We're 4th best in the NFL on converting 3rd downs. And we scored 40 points against what is still a pretty damn good defense. How on earth can anyone blame the offense???? It's the offenses job to score points and that's what they do.
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10-16-2016, 07:48 PM	#4
AllSaints Breakin Records Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Deville, Louisiana Posts: 2,167	Re: Kenny Vaccaro turns down day off, requests defensive players come in to watch film on Monday I like it KV taking over skymike and ctsaint01 like this.

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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: Kenny Vaccaro turns down day off, requests defensive players come in to watch film on Monday Start with the freakin' safteys not playing the ball!!! And not giving help over the top!!!

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CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: Kenny Vaccaro turns down day off, requests defensive players come in to watch film on Monday Originally Posted by Euphoria Start with the freakin' safteys not playing the ball!!! And not giving help over the top!!! OMG..ikr..do they not teach our db's to turn there head? So many stupid PI penalties when all they had to do was turn there head and at least act like they are trying to play the ball. dizzle88 likes this.

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10-17-2016, 01:55 AM	#8
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10-17-2016, 02:54 PM	#10
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,283	Re: Kenny Vaccaro turns down day off, requests defensive players come in to watch film on Monday Back in 2009 and 2011 Did the saints quit after going 21-0? What about against Carolina week 17 in 2011 It was back and forth shootout early 21- even and then saints took over and pulled away. Where is the resiliency? 21 is not enough to win now or hold a lead. We were never a great defense. Maybe we are better off playing early in shootouts and winning late on defense like that packers game both times We have forgotten really how to win and even the fans have forgotten. I saw a lot of high scoring explosive games by us in 2011 where defense did just okay. Did anyone seem to forget Carolina almost came back against Atlanta? It does not matter what defense you have, superstars are superstars. We are not God-like on defense and we are not gonna play a half effort as a team and keep superstars from doing something. When a team pulls within 21-10 that's a wake up call that you don't sit on a lead. The Pittsburgh steelers came back down 24-7 against Denver last year but is anyone saying Denver's a bad defense? No, it is called will to win. Whether you like it or not Carolina has that emotional aptitude to win just like we had in our glory years. We didn't play many teams back then like that. We actually started the whole reason teams have formed playmakers to compete with our offense. You don't give a team who believes they are like the patriots a window to comeback. You can't stop aggression without JJ Watt.

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