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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by ChrisXVI Vonn Bell is already making the calls to adjust coverage in the secondary so what exactly is Byrd good for at this point?! he is making calls but if he is take over the single high ...

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Old 12-15-2016, 11:21 PM   #1
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Re: The 2017 Byrd quandary

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Vonn Bell is already making the calls to adjust coverage in the secondary so what exactly is Byrd good for at this point?!
he is making calls but if he is take over the single high safety he needs step up his game more. So far he is best in the slot CB roll. of the line reading and reacting. time will tell and he has to be given a chance just like anthony does.

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Old 12-15-2016, 02:57 PM   #2
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Re: The 2017 Byrd quandary

Has there been any indication that Byrd isn't good in the locker room?
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Old 12-15-2016, 08:24 PM   #3
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For Christ sake, get someone who can rush the damn QB finally....

We'll pick in the top 10. SHould be easy.
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For Christ sake, get someone who can rush the damn QB finally....

We'll pick in the top 10. SHould be easy.
Got to agree. I wouldn't mind another monster to go along with Rankins and Davidson. I think we resign Fairley, he's been decent enough to keep. I don't think Jenkins stays.
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I think we resign Fairley, he's been decent enough to keep. I don't think Jenkins stays.
Fairley has been decent? That's funny.

And are you referring to John Jenkins? He was released over a month ago.

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Fairley has been decent? That's funny.

And are you referring to John Jenkins? He was released over a month ago.

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I dropped the ball on Jenkins. Fairley started off on fire the first 5 games and cooled off until we played Tampa, maybe I'm reading the wrong stats.
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Old 12-18-2016, 10:50 AM   #7
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For Christ sake, get someone who can rush the damn QB finally....

We'll pick in the top 10. SHould be easy.
We've got guys coming off of injured reserve, rookies who're wiser, and the draft will be fairly deep as it was last year at the position...

They'll be good guards in the mid rounds as well...

Don't understand national pundits having us go after CB...

Sign RG Kevin Zeitler, and we can pretty much let the good players fall to us in the draft...
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We've got guys coming off of injured reserve, rookies who're wiser, and the draft will be fairly deep as it was last year at the position...



They'll be good guards in the mid rounds as well...



Don't understand national pundits having us go after CB...



Sign RG Kevin Zeitler, and we can pretty much let the good players fall to us in the draft...


I agree that we have to get after the QB, C. Jordan is playing well and does get after the QB. However, most of the time he has 2 to 3 people defending him and without someone to draw some of this attention he will be a non factor most of the game.

Better cover guys can help this effort by playing smart and not being behind the sticks on 3rd downs (Defensive Coordinator). Letting teams catch the ball 5 to 7 yards in front of us when they need 7 to 8 yards for a first down is a gamble that continues to hurt us. We have to have cover guys that can pay Man Coverage in these situations and not use their hands beyond the 5 yard allowance. This is my issue with D. Breaux. No doubt he is good but he has to get his head around and go after the ball. I am simply not seeing him elevate his game. (I was mistaken in and earlier post when I said he was the most penalized CB. he is not). His play is hurting frustrating in so many ways I could right a book about it. PLAY THE BALL! DON'T TOUCH PULL AT THE RECEIVERS! I digress.


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Old 12-15-2016, 11:33 PM   #9
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For those who believe in stats from PFF's, Byrd had top defensive grades this week. The dynamic we have with the 3 safeties is working pretty well and we'd be remiss to not try to keep that together next year.

We've had other guys take pay cuts in the past, so it shouldn't be out of the question here.

From a financial and on the field standpoint, it benefits everyone to keep him, work out a pay restructure (he'd probably still make more here than if he hit the open market, so we have leverage), and keep him another year. Then, in 2018 possibly cut him loose .

In my opinion, the current safety position is a strength on this team.
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Let's see if he makes it through the season first.
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