The 2017 Byrd quandary

donbradford · 12-16-2016, 08:30 PM

Am I the only one who wants Delvin Breaux to find another team that guys cost us more in penalties than any other corner back in the league. He is horrible in coverage and can't seem to keep his hands off of receivers. He needs to be the first one cut.

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Rugby Saint II · 12-17-2016, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by donbradford

Am I the only one who wants Delvin Breaux to find another team that guys cost us more in penalties than any other corner back in the league. He is horrible in coverage and can't seem to keep his hands off of receivers. He needs to be the first one cut.

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Two posts and they both mention that you hate Breaux. I like him. He is a good shut down corner who broke his leg this year and is still getting back in shape. Are you a member of SR? jk

Welcome to the board.

donbradford · 12-17-2016, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II

Two posts and they both mention that you hate Breaux. I like him. He is a good shut down corner who broke his leg this year and is still getting back in shape. Are you a member of SR? jk

Welcome to the board.

I don't know what you mean by "SR".

I'm not judgmental of his passion for the game, but rather his stats. I'm just not seeing him help more than he is hurting the team.

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ChrisXVI · 12-17-2016, 02:58 PM

Originally Posted by donbradford

Am I the only one who wants Delvin Breaux to find another team that guys cost us more in penalties than any other corner back in the league. He is horrible in coverage and can't seem to keep his hands off of receivers. He needs to be the first one cut.

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He had an injury-shortened season and never seemed to get back in the groove. He was bad, no doubt about it... But he was phenomenal last season so we know the ability is there. I still have faith in Breaux!

donbradford · 12-17-2016, 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

He had an injury-shortened season and never seemed to get back in the groove. He was bad, no doubt about it... But he was phenomenal last season so we know the ability is there. I still have faith in Breaux!

We will soon see, I would love to be proven wrong and I would love for him to play the game without getting so many pass interference calls. It's not his physical ability to run with receivers nor his ability to play aggressive that is in question. But rather his ability to keep his hands off of wide receivers and to get his head turned around to make a play on the ball that, I have not seen from him yet. Again, I truly hope that I am wrong in that going into next year, if he is still on the team, he can get his head around to make a play on the ball and not grab and pull receivers. If he does not stop that behavior no matter what he will be released from the team. One other thing, I would love for him to get out of the number one spot for most penalized corner back in the league. The team cannot afford those 15 yard penalties that seem to always be at the wrong time.

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Danno · 12-17-2016, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisXVI

He had an injury-shortened season and never seemed to get back in the groove. He was bad, no doubt about it... But he was phenomenal last season so we know the ability is there. I still have faith in Breaux!

He's also the best CB we have. You don't cut anyone until you're sure you can upgrade.

K Major · 12-17-2016, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by donbradford

If he does not stop that behavior no matter what he will be released from the team. One other thing, I would love for him to get out of the number one spot for most penalized corner back in the league. The team cannot afford those 15 yard penalties that seem to always be at the wrong time.

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I can hardly see a scenario where Breaux is released anytime soon. Secondly, what source did you find out that DB is the most penalized CB in the league? Per NFL tracker, JOSH NORMAN (12) has been flagged far more this season and I'm 100 % certain the Redskins aren't considering cutting him

. Circle back to last week's game in Tampa. There were penalties across the board that are biting us. Unnecessary roughness by Harper, Stephone mugging the RB, Hills crucial holding call on the 1 inch line, Peat hold on a fg attempt etc, etc. Same can be said about penalties in the KC game (10-75) as well. It's a team effort on penalties and we are failing.

See NFL penalty tracker link below.

All Players - 2016 - NFL Penalty Stats Tracker - List/Statistics/Data of NFL Penalties - 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016

By the way, welcome to B&G

jeanpierre · 12-18-2016, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

For Christ sake, get someone who can rush the damn QB finally....

We'll pick in the top 10. SHould be easy.

We've got guys coming off of injured reserve, rookies who're wiser, and the draft will be fairly deep as it was last year at the position...

They'll be good guards in the mid rounds as well...

Don't understand national pundits having us go after CB...

Sign RG Kevin Zeitler, and we can pretty much let the good players fall to us in the draft...

Crusader · 12-18-2016, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by donbradford

Am I the only one who wants Delvin Breaux to find another team

Yes I do believe that you are the only one.

He is the best CB on the team and is playing his second year in the league. I think he'll be fine if he can stay healthy.

donbradford · 12-18-2016, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

We've got guys coming off of injured reserve, rookies who're wiser, and the draft will be fairly deep as it was last year at the position...

They'll be good guards in the mid rounds as well...

Don't understand national pundits having us go after CB...

Sign RG Kevin Zeitler, and we can pretty much let the good players fall to us in the draft...

I agree that we have to get after the QB, C. Jordan is playing well and does get after the QB. However, most of the time he has 2 to 3 people defending him and without someone to draw some of this attention he will be a non factor most of the game.

Better cover guys can help this effort by playing smart and not being behind the sticks on 3rd downs (Defensive Coordinator). Letting teams catch the ball 5 to 7 yards in front of us when they need 7 to 8 yards for a first down is a gamble that continues to hurt us. We have to have cover guys that can pay Man Coverage in these situations and not use their hands beyond the 5 yard allowance. This is my issue with D. Breaux. No doubt he is good but he has to get his head around and go after the ball. I am simply not seeing him elevate his game. (I was mistaken in and earlier post when I said he was the most penalized CB. he is not). His play is hurting frustrating in so many ways I could right a book about it. PLAY THE BALL! DON'T TOUCH PULL AT THE RECEIVERS! I digress.

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12-16-2016, 08:30 PM	#21
donbradford Rookie Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 7	Re: The 2017 Byrd quandary Am I the only one who wants Delvin Breaux to find another team that guys cost us more in penalties than any other corner back in the league. He is horrible in coverage and can't seem to keep his hands off of receivers. He needs to be the first one cut. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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12-17-2016, 01:51 PM	#22
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,043	Re: The 2017 Byrd quandary Originally Posted by donbradford Am I the only one who wants Delvin Breaux to find another team that guys cost us more in penalties than any other corner back in the league. He is horrible in coverage and can't seem to keep his hands off of receivers. He needs to be the first one cut. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Two posts and they both mention that you hate Breaux. I like him. He is a good shut down corner who broke his leg this year and is still getting back in shape. Are you a member of SR? jk Welcome to the board.

12-17-2016, 01:55 PM	#23
donbradford Rookie Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 7	Re: The 2017 Byrd quandary Originally Posted by Rugby Saint II Two posts and they both mention that you hate Breaux. I like him. He is a good shut down corner who broke his leg this year and is still getting back in shape. Are you a member of SR? jk Welcome to the board. I don't know what you mean by "SR". I'm not judgmental of his passion for the game, but rather his stats. I'm just not seeing him help more than he is hurting the team. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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12-17-2016, 02:58 PM	#24
ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: The 2017 Byrd quandary Originally Posted by donbradford Am I the only one who wants Delvin Breaux to find another team that guys cost us more in penalties than any other corner back in the league. He is horrible in coverage and can't seem to keep his hands off of receivers. He needs to be the first one cut. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He had an injury-shortened season and never seemed to get back in the groove. He was bad, no doubt about it... But he was phenomenal last season so we know the ability is there. I still have faith in Breaux! Danno likes this.

12-17-2016, 03:04 PM	#25
donbradford Rookie Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 7	Re: The 2017 Byrd quandary Originally Posted by ChrisXVI He had an injury-shortened season and never seemed to get back in the groove. He was bad, no doubt about it... But he was phenomenal last season so we know the ability is there. I still have faith in Breaux! We will soon see, I would love to be proven wrong and I would love for him to play the game without getting so many pass interference calls. It's not his physical ability to run with receivers nor his ability to play aggressive that is in question. But rather his ability to keep his hands off of wide receivers and to get his head turned around to make a play on the ball that, I have not seen from him yet. Again, I truly hope that I am wrong in that going into next year, if he is still on the team, he can get his head around to make a play on the ball and not grab and pull receivers. If he does not stop that behavior no matter what he will be released from the team. One other thing, I would love for him to get out of the number one spot for most penalized corner back in the league. The team cannot afford those 15 yard penalties that seem to always be at the wrong time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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12-17-2016, 03:05 PM	#26
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,713	Re: The 2017 Byrd quandary Originally Posted by ChrisXVI He had an injury-shortened season and never seemed to get back in the groove. He was bad, no doubt about it... But he was phenomenal last season so we know the ability is there. I still have faith in Breaux! He's also the best CB we have. You don't cut anyone until you're sure you can upgrade.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,588 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The 2017 Byrd quandary Originally Posted by donbradford If he does not stop that behavior no matter what he will be released from the team. One other thing, I would love for him to get out of the number one spot for most penalized corner back in the league. The team cannot afford those 15 yard penalties that seem to always be at the wrong time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I can hardly see a scenario where Breaux is released anytime soon. Secondly, what source did you find out that DB is the most penalized CB in the league? Per NFL tracker, JOSH NORMAN (12) has been flagged far more this season and I'm 100 % certain the Redskins aren't considering cutting him . Circle back to last week's game in Tampa. There were penalties across the board that are biting us. Unnecessary roughness by Harper, Stephone mugging the RB, Hills crucial holding call on the 1 inch line, Peat hold on a fg attempt etc, etc. Same can be said about penalties in the KC game (10-75) as well. It's a team effort on penalties and we are failing. See NFL penalty tracker link below. All Players - 2016 - NFL Penalty Stats Tracker - List/Statistics/Data of NFL Penalties - 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016 By the way, welcome to B&G
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12-18-2016, 10:50 AM	#28
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: The 2017 Byrd quandary Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 For Christ sake, get someone who can rush the damn QB finally.... We'll pick in the top 10. SHould be easy. We've got guys coming off of injured reserve, rookies who're wiser, and the draft will be fairly deep as it was last year at the position... They'll be good guards in the mid rounds as well... Don't understand national pundits having us go after CB... Sign RG Kevin Zeitler, and we can pretty much let the good players fall to us in the draft...

12-18-2016, 11:04 AM	#29
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,017	Re: The 2017 Byrd quandary Originally Posted by donbradford Am I the only one who wants Delvin Breaux to find another team Yes I do believe that you are the only one. He is the best CB on the team and is playing his second year in the league. I think he'll be fine if he can stay healthy.

12-18-2016, 11:10 AM	#30
donbradford Rookie Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 7	Re: The 2017 Byrd quandary Originally Posted by jeanpierre We've got guys coming off of injured reserve, rookies who're wiser, and the draft will be fairly deep as it was last year at the position... They'll be good guards in the mid rounds as well... Don't understand national pundits having us go after CB... Sign RG Kevin Zeitler, and we can pretty much let the good players fall to us in the draft... I agree that we have to get after the QB, C. Jordan is playing well and does get after the QB. However, most of the time he has 2 to 3 people defending him and without someone to draw some of this attention he will be a non factor most of the game. Better cover guys can help this effort by playing smart and not being behind the sticks on 3rd downs (Defensive Coordinator). Letting teams catch the ball 5 to 7 yards in front of us when they need 7 to 8 yards for a first down is a gamble that continues to hurt us. We have to have cover guys that can pay Man Coverage in these situations and not use their hands beyond the 5 yard allowance. This is my issue with D. Breaux. No doubt he is good but he has to get his head around and go after the ball. I am simply not seeing him elevate his game. (I was mistaken in and earlier post when I said he was the most penalized CB. he is not). His play is hurting frustrating in so many ways I could right a book about it. PLAY THE BALL! DON'T TOUCH PULL AT THE RECEIVERS! I digress. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
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