What I wish we had/ could find again

blackangold · 12-28-2016, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

True. Several of us were puzzled and pissed off by the FO cutting him. Then he went to Seattle. Was cut shortly after. His last stop was with the Jets. Cut again. He's carried 6 times this year. Something is wrong with him. So the Saints made the right move.

They made the wrong move by cutting sproles and signing spiller in the first place.

billyt81 · 12-28-2016, 03:25 AM

Ingram catches the ball well. He caught the ball a lot for Bama. Why do we put Cadet on the field/roster? Christian McCaffrey anyone? Gives us a true 3rd down back and a good returner. If we moved up for Fournette though, I'd be glad.

spkb25 · 12-28-2016, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Brady need screens? ever here of Dion Lewis or James White?

Remember another kid named Kevin Faulk?

You damn straight, Skippy, NE relies on the screen pass...

Rodgers hasn't won sh*t since he hasn't had his running backs...

ALL, and I mean ALL, successful teams rely on the screen pass...

Even Oakland won more games in a generation this season because of the screen pass...

Tampa Bay had a mini run in the middle of the season with a healthy Jacquizz Rodgers doing damage...

If you don't have the screen pass in your arsenal - you're not going very far...

OMG faulk, lewis, they always had rb that coul catch a pass out of the backfield. solid post.

Papa Voodoo · 12-28-2016, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

The best defenses in the league do not allow those screen plays. Sproles in 2013 was subpar, which was why he was traded. He was just a decoy really. It's also rediculous to think Brees(or Payton) needs screen passes to win.

They don't but PT did some great work with those screens.

WillSaints81 · 12-28-2016, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by billyt81

Ingram catches the ball well. He caught the ball a lot for Bama. Why do we put Cadet on the field/roster? Christian McCaffrey anyone? Gives us a true 3rd down back and a good returner. If we moved up for Fournette though, I'd be glad.

McCaffery is probably gone when we pick.

WillSaints81 · 12-28-2016, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Brady need screens? ever here of Dion Lewis or James White?

Remember another kid named Kevin Faulk?

You damn straight, Skippy, NE relies on the screen pass...

Rodgers hasn't won sh*t since he hasn't had his running backs...

ALL, and I mean ALL, successful teams rely on the screen pass...

Even Oakland won more games in a generation this season because of the screen pass...

Tampa Bay had a mini run in the middle of the season with a healthy Jacquizz Rodgers doing damage...

If you don't have the screen pass in your arsenal - you're not going very far...

So you mean to tell the offense struggled this year in those games they lost because they didn't have Reggie or Sproles? Honestly Cadet is fine(not to be used whenever though), the problem is the OFFENSIVE LINE and that bum TE when playing those kinds of games. Some say the oline is fine but Peat was okay at LT, and the LG position was weaker as a result. Kelemete just does not do enough. And then you have RG where Jahri underperforms against stronger defenses.

Oh and Ellias Williams is suggesting we bring back Reggie.......

jeanpierre · 12-28-2016, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by WillSaints81

So you mean to tell the offense struggled this year in those games they lost because they didn't have Reggie or Sproles? Honestly Cadet is fine(not to be used whenever though), the problem is the OFFENSIVE LINE and that bum TE when playing those kinds of games. Some say the oline is fine but Peat was okay at LT, and the LG position was weaker as a result. Kelemete just does not do enough. And then you have RG where Jahri underperforms against stronger defenses.

Oh and Ellias Williams is suggesting we bring back Reggie.......

You better check some of Peat's grades at LT, he had a 90+ game last week; and Peat usually didn't know he was playing LT till the game with the on again, off again injury drama of Armstead...

Everyone here knows LG and RG is a problem; Kelemete and Lelito are obvious backups who are now well-seasoned...

Rugby Saint II · 12-29-2016, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

They don't but PT did some great work with those screens.

Besides Deuce PT was the best all around back we've had in a long time. He will always be the screen king to me. It was a thing of beauty to watch. He didn't run like a scat back in runs, he was a smart runner reading his blocks and making the most of his moves to get him into open field. Oh yes, he was good inside too.

vpheughan · 12-29-2016, 06:30 PM

Don't forget the Saints will be sending their 1st and 4th round picks to New England for Garoppolo!

Sarik · 12-29-2016, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by vpheughan

Don't forget the Saints will be sending their 1st and 4th round picks to New England for Garoppolo!

I would need to take a few months off from watching Saints football if that happened lol. I'd hope the FO isn't that stupid.

12-28-2016, 02:10 AM	#21
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: What I wish we had/ could find again Originally Posted by jnormand True. Several of us were puzzled and pissed off by the FO cutting him. Then he went to Seattle. Was cut shortly after. His last stop was with the Jets. Cut again. He's carried 6 times this year. Something is wrong with him. So the Saints made the right move. They made the wrong move by cutting sproles and signing spiller in the first place.

12-28-2016, 03:25 AM	#22
billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: What I wish we had/ could find again Ingram catches the ball well. He caught the ball a lot for Bama. Why do we put Cadet on the field/roster? Christian McCaffrey anyone? Gives us a true 3rd down back and a good returner. If we moved up for Fournette though, I'd be glad.

12-28-2016, 01:23 PM	#23
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: What I wish we had/ could find again Originally Posted by jeanpierre Brady need screens? ever here of Dion Lewis or James White? Remember another kid named Kevin Faulk? You damn straight, Skippy, NE relies on the screen pass... Rodgers hasn't won sh*t since he hasn't had his running backs... ALL, and I mean ALL, successful teams rely on the screen pass... Even Oakland won more games in a generation this season because of the screen pass... Tampa Bay had a mini run in the middle of the season with a healthy Jacquizz Rodgers doing damage... If you don't have the screen pass in your arsenal - you're not going very far... OMG faulk, lewis, they always had rb that coul catch a pass out of the backfield. solid post.

12-28-2016, 02:26 PM	#24
Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,633	Re: What I wish we had/ could find again Originally Posted by WillSaints81 The best defenses in the league do not allow those screen plays. Sproles in 2013 was subpar, which was why he was traded. He was just a decoy really. It's also rediculous to think Brees(or Payton) needs screen passes to win. They don't but PT did some great work with those screens. Rugby Saint II likes this.

12-28-2016, 03:23 PM	#25
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: What I wish we had/ could find again Originally Posted by billyt81 Ingram catches the ball well. He caught the ball a lot for Bama. Why do we put Cadet on the field/roster? Christian McCaffrey anyone? Gives us a true 3rd down back and a good returner. If we moved up for Fournette though, I'd be glad. McCaffery is probably gone when we pick.

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12-28-2016, 03:37 PM	#26
WillSaints81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,267	Re: What I wish we had/ could find again Originally Posted by jeanpierre Brady need screens? ever here of Dion Lewis or James White? Remember another kid named Kevin Faulk? You damn straight, Skippy, NE relies on the screen pass... Rodgers hasn't won sh*t since he hasn't had his running backs... ALL, and I mean ALL, successful teams rely on the screen pass... Even Oakland won more games in a generation this season because of the screen pass... Tampa Bay had a mini run in the middle of the season with a healthy Jacquizz Rodgers doing damage... If you don't have the screen pass in your arsenal - you're not going very far... So you mean to tell the offense struggled this year in those games they lost because they didn't have Reggie or Sproles? Honestly Cadet is fine(not to be used whenever though), the problem is the OFFENSIVE LINE and that bum TE when playing those kinds of games. Some say the oline is fine but Peat was okay at LT, and the LG position was weaker as a result. Kelemete just does not do enough. And then you have RG where Jahri underperforms against stronger defenses. Oh and Ellias Williams is suggesting we bring back Reggie.......

12-28-2016, 04:36 PM	#27
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: What I wish we had/ could find again Originally Posted by WillSaints81 So you mean to tell the offense struggled this year in those games they lost because they didn't have Reggie or Sproles? Honestly Cadet is fine(not to be used whenever though), the problem is the OFFENSIVE LINE and that bum TE when playing those kinds of games. Some say the oline is fine but Peat was okay at LT, and the LG position was weaker as a result. Kelemete just does not do enough. And then you have RG where Jahri underperforms against stronger defenses. Oh and Ellias Williams is suggesting we bring back Reggie....... You better check some of Peat's grades at LT, he had a 90+ game last week; and Peat usually didn't know he was playing LT till the game with the on again, off again injury drama of Armstead... Everyone here knows LG and RG is a problem; Kelemete and Lelito are obvious backups who are now well-seasoned... ctsaint01 likes this.

12-29-2016, 02:54 PM	#28
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: What I wish we had/ could find again Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo They don't but PT did some great work with those screens. Besides Deuce PT was the best all around back we've had in a long time. He will always be the screen king to me. It was a thing of beauty to watch. He didn't run like a scat back in runs, he was a smart runner reading his blocks and making the most of his moves to get him into open field. Oh yes, he was good inside too. halloween 65 likes this.

12-29-2016, 06:30 PM	#29
vpheughan 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4,520	Re: What I wish we had/ could find again Don't forget the Saints will be sending their 1st and 4th round picks to New England for Garoppolo!
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12-29-2016, 08:51 PM	#30
Sarik 100th Post Join Date: May 2012 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 292	Re: What I wish we had/ could find again Originally Posted by vpheughan Don't forget the Saints will be sending their 1st and 4th round picks to New England for Garoppolo! I would need to take a few months off from watching Saints football if that happened lol. I'd hope the FO isn't that stupid.

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