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jeanpierre 04-14-2017 11:09 AM

Re: 2017 Free Agency thread anyone?
 
Remember wasting money on smallish CBs like Jason David who struggled in our system?

Remember wasting money on Browner, when Breaux came in and showed real CB play?

We've got to start to remember our history and realize, first, we had an abnormal amount of injuries last season and, second, the pass rush didn't start to gel till the second half of the season...

Now this would be a sly, sneaky pickup and a helluva lot cheaper than Malcolm Butler and would buy time for a developing CB...



K Major 04-14-2017 02:34 PM

Re: 2017 Free Agency thread anyone?
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 744628)
Should our new, HEALTHY, defense struggle, McCaffrey would be our Sproles extending drives...

Excellent complement to the bowling ball Ingram...

SP went on record speaking highly about McCaffrey and stated he had a "crystal clear" vision for the player. Christian checks off on a lot of scouts boxes. It does make me wonder.

I could see the Saints going after a RB as early as rd 3 if not sooner.

halloween 65 04-14-2017 03:56 PM

Re: 2017 Free Agency thread anyone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 744628)
Agreed. That's why I'm now a fan of taking McCaffrey in the first round...

Should our new, HEALTHY, defense struggle, McCaffrey would be our Sproles extending drives...

Excellent complement to the bowling ball Ingram...

We need a better TE . I like Mixon over McCaffrey and want use up a 1st. If Payton wants to strike fear again draft a TE at 11 and Mixon at 42.

Seer1 04-14-2017 06:06 PM

Re: 2017 Free Agency thread anyone?
 
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 744655)
We need a better TE . I like Mixon over McCaffrey and want use up a 1st. If Payton wants to strike fear again draft a TE at 11 and Mixon at 42.

Fear in his fan base? After O.J. what TE's worth an eleven and Mixon at 32? Wow, that'd go right up there with the SJB pick in over reaching a draft pick. There's a real good chance that guy's still there in the early third.

jeanpierre 04-14-2017 10:09 PM

Re: 2017 Free Agency thread anyone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 744655)
We need a better TE . I like Mixon over McCaffrey and want use up a 1st. If Payton wants to strike fear again draft a TE at 11 and Mixon at 42.

And in this offense that TE will put up elite numbers and then you'll have to trade him after his rookie contract...

In the modern economic cap model, there's really not a whole lot of money for an elite TE when you've got an elite QB, two elite defenders, an All-Pro offensive linemen, and a Top 5 X receiver...

You know, kinda what we should've learned from the Graham experience...

lee909 04-15-2017 12:58 AM

Re: 2017 Free Agency thread anyone?
 
True but if you can get 4 years out of them then a 1/2 round oick before letting them walk its good business

Seer1 04-15-2017 01:54 PM

Re: 2017 Free Agency thread anyone?
 
Although Hagan's really persuasive, I'm still having a bit of a problem justifying a TE selection in the first with what we already have. I'll be having flashbacks if it's any TE except O.J. There'll be some pretty awesome ones still around in the third and fourth. To win now, I'm still thinking our focus needs to be pretty much on the other side of the ball in the first couple three rounds.

hagan714 04-15-2017 05:01 PM

Re: 2017 Free Agency thread anyone?
 
Cook traded and no real backup for Zach much less a future starter makes the need for a blocking TE with receiving skills is a huge need for the saints to help out the poor OT that takes over if Zach goes down. He goes down DBL TE set appears to be the only real option. kills two birds with one stone

11 - O.J. Howard TE Alabama 6055 251 4.51 #88 Sr
103 - TE Iowa 6036 250 4.53 #46 rSr
229 - Blake Jarwin TE Oklahoma St. 6050 244 4.76 #47 rSr

That is why I wanted the saints to chase.

Ricky Wagner RT 27 BAL DET 5/$47,500,000
Rex Burkhead RB 26 CIN NE 1/$3,150,000


Let Zach sign an extension and play out his years as our swing OT Heck of a heavy OL set that would have made. Then defense in the draft could be the #1 issue.

We could have avoided the issue all together

I would have passed on these 3 in heart beat to sign those two.

Nick Fairley DT 29 NO NO 4/$28,000,000 to $32,000,000
Ted Ginn Jr. WR 31 CAR NO 3/$11,000,000
Manti Te'o ILB 26 LAC NO 2 /$5,000,000

Round 3 has Nick replacements

Dalvin Tomlinson DT Alabama 6027 310 5.19 #54 rSr
Vincent Taylor*, DT/NT Oklahoma State 6025 304 5.07 #96 rJr

I would have rather gone with

Lawrence Guy DE/DT 27 BAL NE 4/$13,400,000 $2,600,000

As Drew goes so do the saints. He goes down and the season is over.

Seer1 04-15-2017 06:15 PM

Re: 2017 Free Agency thread anyone?
 
Hell Hagan, we could've avoided the issue already had they listened to us and drafted heavy into the OL a few years ago instead of drafting whatever just to confuse the mock draft gurus (and us).

jeanpierre 04-16-2017 08:49 AM

Re: 2017 Free Agency thread anyone?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 744729)
Hell Hagan, we could've avoided the issue already had they listened to us and drafted heavy into the OL a few years ago instead of drafting whatever just to confuse the mock draft gurus (and us).

When I lived in the city, had friends who worked, covered, were close to the team during the latter Mora years...

Many in the building were convinced without the strong leadership of Mr. Finks, Mora was making picks contrary to logic to attempt to show he was the smartest cat in the building...

Glad we don't have that problem now...


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