Saints explain why they think this 7-9 finish was different from past two

halloween 65 · 01-04-2017, 02:49 PM

I in no way shape or form think Allen and the good ole boys are worth a damn as coaches. I'm really amazes people think he is. Every DC out there loses players, every year and to think he puts his players in a position to bring out there talents is thinking wrong. He will be just as bad this season, no upgrade at all with this clown. It's been so long we had a good D I think people forget what one should do.He's just not that good people!!

darksoul35 · 01-04-2017, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I in no way shape or form think Allen and the good ole boys are worth a damn as coaches. I'm really amazes people think he is. Every DC out there loses players, every year and to think he puts his players in a position to bring out there talents is thinking wrong. He will be just as bad this season, no upgrade at all with this clown. It's been so long we had a good D I think people forget what one should do.He's just not that good people!!

I hear what your saying but idk if another defense took half of the injuries that ours did. Especially to key players.

AsylumGuido · 01-04-2017, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

I in no way shape or form think Allen and the good ole boys are worth a damn as coaches. I'm really amazes people think he is. Every DC out there loses players, every year and to think he puts his players in a position to bring out there talents is thinking wrong. He will be just as bad this season, no upgrade at all with this clown. It's been so long we had a good D I think people forget what one should do.He's just not that good people!!

I'm not saying that Allen is the answer. I'm just explaining that Payton IS actively working at fixing what is broken. Bringing in Allen was a means to the end. It was a positive move. So was bringing in Jeff Ireland. He also brought in Kevin O'Dea in November to help Lutz with his transition. O'Dea has a ton of experience with kickoff and return squads, as well.

Allen may not be the total cure, but he was a good band-aid at the time.

halloween 65 · 01-04-2017, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

I'm not saying that Allen is the answer. I'm just explaining that Payton IS actively working at fixing what is broken. Bringing in Allen was a means to the end. It was a positive move. So was bringing in Jeff Ireland. He also brought in Kevin O'Dea in November to help Lutz with his transition. O'Dea has a ton of experience with kickoff and return squads, as well.

Allen may not be the total cure, but he was a good band-aid at the time.

My question is why keep trying to patch it when you can fix it with proper coaches? I'm just sick of watching us play bad D. The patch jobs haven't did so well. It's time for a change before we fall into obscurity.

Danno · 01-04-2017, 06:43 PM

Its obvious why 2016 was a bust and why 2017 looks like a boom. I'm tired of explaining it.

NOLA54 · 01-04-2017, 07:25 PM

Let's start a pool on how many loosing seasons Sean will have before he is terminated.

gulfgambler · 01-04-2017, 07:27 PM

This team could use a defensive minded HC w/ DA as DC. Brees and Carmichael can handle offense w/o missing a beat. I'm open tot see how many and how high draft picks we can get for SP and his ridiculous overpaid contract.

AsylumGuido · 01-05-2017, 07:15 AM

Originally Posted by gulfgambler

This team could use a defensive minded HC w/ DA as DC. Brees and Carmichael can handle offense w/o missing a beat. I'm open tot see how many and how high draft picks we can get for SP and his ridiculous overpaid contract.

While you may be open to it, you are not the one that makes those type of decisions. No matter what you think, Payton isn't going anywhere as long as Benson, or his wife, and Loomis are in charge. And what Payton gets paid should be of no concern of yours at all. It is a drop in a billionaire's bucket.

spkb25 · 01-05-2017, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

While you may be open to it, you are not the one that makes those type of decisions. No matter what you think, Payton isn't going anywhere as long as Benson, or his wife, and Loomis are in charge. And what Payton gets paid should be of no concern of yours at all. It is a drop in a billionaire's bucket.

that's total bs, if he keeps losing he's done

AsylumGuido · 01-05-2017, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

that's total bs, if he keeps losing he's done

No. As long as ownership remains happy it doesn't matter at all. But, I see it as totally irrelevant anyway. I fully expect the Saints to be on the upswing.

01-04-2017, 02:49 PM	#1
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints explain why they think this 7-9 finish was different from past two I in no way shape or form think Allen and the good ole boys are worth a damn as coaches. I'm really amazes people think he is. Every DC out there loses players, every year and to think he puts his players in a position to bring out there talents is thinking wrong. He will be just as bad this season, no upgrade at all with this clown. It's been so long we had a good D I think people forget what one should do.He's just not that good people!! Halo likes this.

01-04-2017, 05:24 PM	#2
darksoul35 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,044	Re: Saints explain why they think this 7-9 finish was different from past two Originally Posted by halloween 65 I in no way shape or form think Allen and the good ole boys are worth a damn as coaches. I'm really amazes people think he is. Every DC out there loses players, every year and to think he puts his players in a position to bring out there talents is thinking wrong. He will be just as bad this season, no upgrade at all with this clown. It's been so long we had a good D I think people forget what one should do.He's just not that good people!! I hear what your saying but idk if another defense took half of the injuries that ours did. Especially to key players.
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01-04-2017, 06:00 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,703	Re: Saints explain why they think this 7-9 finish was different from past two Originally Posted by halloween 65 I in no way shape or form think Allen and the good ole boys are worth a damn as coaches. I'm really amazes people think he is. Every DC out there loses players, every year and to think he puts his players in a position to bring out there talents is thinking wrong. He will be just as bad this season, no upgrade at all with this clown. It's been so long we had a good D I think people forget what one should do.He's just not that good people!! I'm not saying that Allen is the answer. I'm just explaining that Payton IS actively working at fixing what is broken. Bringing in Allen was a means to the end. It was a positive move. So was bringing in Jeff Ireland. He also brought in Kevin O'Dea in November to help Lutz with his transition. O'Dea has a ton of experience with kickoff and return squads, as well. Allen may not be the total cure, but he was a good band-aid at the time. Danno and hagan714 like this.

01-04-2017, 06:41 PM	#4
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints explain why they think this 7-9 finish was different from past two Originally Posted by AsylumGuido I'm not saying that Allen is the answer. I'm just explaining that Payton IS actively working at fixing what is broken. Bringing in Allen was a means to the end. It was a positive move. So was bringing in Jeff Ireland. He also brought in Kevin O'Dea in November to help Lutz with his transition. O'Dea has a ton of experience with kickoff and return squads, as well. Allen may not be the total cure, but he was a good band-aid at the time. My question is why keep trying to patch it when you can fix it with proper coaches? I'm just sick of watching us play bad D. The patch jobs haven't did so well. It's time for a change before we fall into obscurity.

01-04-2017, 06:43 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Saints explain why they think this 7-9 finish was different from past two Its obvious why 2016 was a bust and why 2017 looks like a boom. I'm tired of explaining it. Halo, hagan714 and foreverfan like this.

01-04-2017, 07:25 PM	#6
NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Saints explain why they think this 7-9 finish was different from past two Let's start a pool on how many loosing seasons Sean will have before he is terminated. Halo and UK_WhoDat like this.

01-04-2017, 07:27 PM	#7
gulfgambler Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Tomball Posts: 1,097	Re: Saints explain why they think this 7-9 finish was different from past two This team could use a defensive minded HC w/ DA as DC. Brees and Carmichael can handle offense w/o missing a beat. I'm open tot see how many and how high draft picks we can get for SP and his ridiculous overpaid contract. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

01-05-2017, 07:15 AM	#8
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,703	Re: Saints explain why they think this 7-9 finish was different from past two Originally Posted by gulfgambler This team could use a defensive minded HC w/ DA as DC. Brees and Carmichael can handle offense w/o missing a beat. I'm open tot see how many and how high draft picks we can get for SP and his ridiculous overpaid contract. While you may be open to it, you are not the one that makes those type of decisions. No matter what you think, Payton isn't going anywhere as long as Benson, or his wife, and Loomis are in charge. And what Payton gets paid should be of no concern of yours at all. It is a drop in a billionaire's bucket.

01-05-2017, 03:22 PM	#9
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Saints explain why they think this 7-9 finish was different from past two Originally Posted by AsylumGuido While you may be open to it, you are not the one that makes those type of decisions. No matter what you think, Payton isn't going anywhere as long as Benson, or his wife, and Loomis are in charge. And what Payton gets paid should be of no concern of yours at all. It is a drop in a billionaire's bucket. that's total bs, if he keeps losing he's done

01-05-2017, 05:51 PM	#10
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,703	Re: Saints explain why they think this 7-9 finish was different from past two Originally Posted by spkb25 that's total bs, if he keeps losing he's done No. As long as ownership remains happy it doesn't matter at all. But, I see it as totally irrelevant anyway. I fully expect the Saints to be on the upswing. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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