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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by halloween 65 JP just because Allen made adjustments in the 2nd half of the game doesn't help the playcalling he made in the 1st half. 1/2 a game don't cut it.A 7-9 record pretty well shows that. ...

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Old 01-07-2017, 12:48 PM   #181
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 View Post
JP just because Allen made adjustments in the 2nd half of the game doesn't help the playcalling he made in the 1st half. 1/2 a game don't cut it.A 7-9 record pretty well shows that. If his D starts costing us games early in the season and the O has to score 32+ ppg, it's still a problem winning or not. I got no choice but to take the wait and see approach but you can believe my eyes will be wide open looking at the D.
I'll tell you why it took so long...

First, look at the roster from week to week for this season; some may find the thread I maintained annoyingly unnecessary when the Saints page has the same information (which, I'd like to say was hardly ever accurate or timely and the Saints need to dismiss that deadweight as well)...

Didn't do it for a pat on the back, but I started to realize something maintaining that thread (And Thanks to Chris and KMajor for helping me with it)...

If you go through the thread you'll realize we never had the same guys starting at the same positions from week to week...

Now, in D.A.'s defense, how are you're suppose to gameplan and know how they'll perform until you hit the field?

And let me also remind everyone I wasn't thrilled with D.A.'s hiring and blowing up the 3-4 after drafting for that front for three years...

But you know what? D.A. came in, implemented a plan, and he owned the challenge from the draft, through Training Camp, and to the end of the season...

Now, the questions are do we get healthy?

Do we add another speed rusher?

Do we coach up and find ways to get Anthony and Kikaha in position for success?

Do we get a sophomore coaching jinx?

Let the offseason, draft and training camp playout then pass judgement.

But in light of the past four seasons, and while I didn't agree with blowing up the 3-4, D.A. has got this defense in a better position than it's been since our SuperBowl run...

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Old 01-07-2017, 01:20 PM   #182
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Originally Posted by halloween 65 View Post
Then tell me why he took so long? It's been that way for the D side forever.
"he's doing this because he knows it is the right thing to do and he knows they had to go"

Halloween asks why did it take so long?

"Oh because he is human"

LMMFAO!!! So he has known they were sub standard coaches and kept them around anyway, lmao the excuses are off the charts.

He's so full of **** he can't get out of his own way



Here are the only things I know, 1 winning season in the last 5, 7-9 with an 0-2 or 0-3 start is Saints football. It is the rule as of late, not the exception.

Your team stinks
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Old 01-07-2017, 01:25 PM   #183
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That is so shallow minded. You truly feel fires are made in a vacuum with outward perception being the driving force? I'll guarantee you that Payton doesn't make any move "to buy time". That is juvenile. He made the moves because they had to be made. He fired the coaches he fired because they were not doing their jobs as all of you (yourself, drizzle and halloween) have been promoting. And why would he fire Dennis Allen? The defense showed improvement and Allen showed repeatedly that while working with a squad full of temporary players he could make adjustment at the half, which is something that Ryan could never do. What the defense needs is stability. You don't get that by making change at the top. THAT makes no sense whatsoever.

No, Payton fired those coaches for the sole reason that they needed to be fired. It was the right move to make ... unless y'all think that you were wrong.

Outward perception and scapegoating are regular parts of firings. Hence Low Energy still being here despite consistently putting up losing seasons and the defensive side of the ball constantly catching the brunt of his dumbass decisions and loyalties

He hired **** for brains RR. I sure didn't want him. Maybe Sean the control freak should hire a real dcoord and let the guy bring his own ****ing people in, but no he is such a **** for brains that he keeps failing because he is a control freak and hires people he can control.
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Old 01-07-2017, 01:26 PM   #184
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
I'll tell you why it took so long...

First, look at the roster from week to week for this season; some may find the thread I maintained annoying unnecessary when the Saints page has the same information (which, I'd like to say was hardly ever accurate or timely and the Saints need to dismiss that deadweight as well)...

Didn't do it for a pat on the back, but I started to realize something maintaining that thread (And Thanks to Chris and KMajor for helping me with it)...

If you go through the thread you'll realize we never had the same guys starting at the same positions from week to week...

Now, in D.A.'s defense, how are you're suppose to gameplan and know how they'll perform until you hit the field?

And let me also remind everyone I wasn't thrilled with D.A.'s hiring and blowing up the 3-4 after drafting for that front for three years...

But you know what? D.A. came in, implemented a plan, and he owned the challenge from the draft, through Training Camp, and to the end of the season...

Now, the questions are do we get healthy?

Do we add another speed rusher?

Do we coach up and find ways to get Anthony and Kikaha in position for success?

Do we get a sophomore coaching jinx?

Let the offseason, draft and training camp playout then pass judgement.

But in light of the pass four seasons, while I didn't agree with blowing up the 3-4, D.A. has got this defense in a better position than it's been since our SuperBowl run...
sir he is talking about the failures long before this season
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sir he is talking about the failures long before this season
Who the hell cares other than you? I sure don't.
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Old 01-07-2017, 01:30 PM   #186
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Who the hell cares other than you? I sure don't.
No ****, you disappear as soon as the losing starts. You couldn't be found when we were losing. Then we won a few games and you and Danno were back all over the board again, then the losing began again and Halo had to get a ****ing Amber alert for your asses.

GTFOH fake fan
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre View Post
I'll tell you why it took so long...

First, look at the roster from week to week for this season; some may find the thread I maintained annoying unnecessary when the Saints page has the same information (which, I'd like to say was hardly ever accurate or timely and the Saints need to dismiss that deadweight as well)...

Didn't do it for a pat on the back, but I started to realize something maintaining that thread (And Thanks to Chris and KMajor for helping me with it)...

If you go through the thread you'll realize we never had the same guys starting at the same positions from week to week...

Now, in D.A.'s defense, how are you're suppose to gameplan and know how they'll perform until you hit the field?

And let me also remind everyone I wasn't thrilled with D.A.'s hiring and blowing up the 3-4 after drafting for that front for three years...

But you know what? D.A. came in, implemented a plan, and he owned the challenge from the draft, through Training Camp, and to the end of the season...

Now, the questions are do we get healthy?

Do we add another speed rusher?

Do we coach up and find ways to get Anthony and Kikaha in position for success?

Do we get a sophomore coaching jinx?

Let the offseason, draft and training camp playout then pass judgement.

But in light of the pass four seasons, while I didn't agree with blowing up the 3-4, D.A. has got this defense in a better position than it's been since our SuperBowl run...
I got no choice like I said but to watch. He's had this D 1 1/2 years already and little to nothing has changed. Bottom dwellers again last season. But as far as seeing what he had thats what practice and preseason games are for.
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Old 01-07-2017, 03:13 PM   #188
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No ****, you disappear as soon as the losing starts. You couldn't be found when we were losing. Then we won a few games and you and Danno were back all over the board again, then the losing began again and Halo had to get a ****ing Amber alert for your asses.

GTFOH fake fan
You don't know what you are talking about. I have been at this board virtually every day over the past several years. And I'll guarantee you that you can't find a bigger fan. I haven't gone a single day in the last 20 years without wearing my Saints gear. I have pulled for MY Saints every game since the very first back in 1967. Fake fan my ass. We fly Saints flags pretty much year round in front of the house.
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Old 01-07-2017, 06:45 PM   #189
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Well this thread took a bad turn. Calm down fellas. Same team. The news that these coaches are gone is good. I'm sure we can all agree on that. No one has slept with anyone's mom around here (that I know of anyway). Bunch of damn hyenas around here. Good God man. Lol.
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Old 01-07-2017, 07:01 PM   #190
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And you wonder why I took a ten day break off posting on this site last October. It was because of **** like this. I was here reading all the dumb **** being posted at the time but bit my tongue. It wasn't easy. But I have NEVER, EVER, EVER abandoned my Saints and I will face anyone face to face that implies otherwise.
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