Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED

spkb25 · 01-05-2017, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Give up. He's being totally illogical. Every offense makes mistakes. An average defense would cover those mistakes. A horrible defense wouldn't. Is that the fault of the offense or the defense?

Pretty clear to anyone without an agenda.

actually, outside of a few, people like yourself and Danno, guys that were completely wrong about this team, everyone is well aware of the games our offense cost us. They cost of 5 games, 5 losses were solely on the offense.

AsylumGuido · 01-05-2017, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

actually, outside of a few, people like yourself and Danno, guys that were completely wrong about this team, everyone is well aware of the games our offense cost us. They cost of 5 games, 5 losses were solely on the offense.

Sorry, friend, but you are so full of ****. Love you anyway.

spkb25 · 01-05-2017, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Sorry, friend, but you are so full of ****. Love you anyway.

Unfortunately you have offered nothing substantial. It is more than clear those 5 games were loss by the offense and it has already been proven.

AsylumGuido · 01-05-2017, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

actually, outside of a few, people like yourself and Danno, guys that were completely wrong about this team, everyone is well aware of the games our offense cost us. They cost of 5 games, 5 losses were solely on the offense.

What part of the obvious concept of if the defense and special teams were not so horrible, average mistakes by the offense that that happen to all teams would not have been game changing?

For example, Ingram had two fumbles all season. You blame two loses on him. Dallas' Elliot had FIVE fumbles but there defense and special teams made them less of an impact.

spkb25 · 01-05-2017, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

What part of the obvious concept of if the defense and special teams were not so horrible, average mistakes by the offense that that happen to all teams would not have been game changing?

For example, Ingram had two fumbles all season. You blame two loses on him. Dallas' Elliot had FIVE fumbles but there defense and special teams made them less of an impact.

4 turnovers in a game with 1 inside your 40 and 2 inside your 30 rates as average now, I wasn't aware. Nice one

That's a nice bait and switch, but the offense was responsible for those 5 losses and reasons have already been stated. If you want to attack some of what I wrote as it pertains to those 5 games go for it.

AsylumGuido · 01-05-2017, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

4 turnovers in a game with 1 inside your 40 and 2 inside your 30 rates as average now, I wasn't aware. Nice one

That's a nice bait and switch, but the offense was responsible for those 5 losses and reasons have already been stated. If you want to attack some of what I wrote as it pertains to those 5 games go for it.

Those same things happen to teams with decent defenses and special teams all the time, but they don't lose.

You are getting irrational.

dizzle88 · 01-05-2017, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Those same things happen to teams with decent defenses and special teams all the time, but they don't lose.

You are getting irrational.

And our defense played decent versus Denver racking up 6 sacks and 2 interceptions, especially considering the offense put them in awful positions. So the offense is to blame for the Denver loss.

NonieT · 01-05-2017, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Those same things happen to teams with decent defenses and special teams all the time, but they don't lose.

This!

01-05-2017, 08:02 PM	#1
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Give up. He's being totally illogical. Every offense makes mistakes. An average defense would cover those mistakes. A horrible defense wouldn't. Is that the fault of the offense or the defense? Pretty clear to anyone without an agenda. actually, outside of a few, people like yourself and Danno, guys that were completely wrong about this team, everyone is well aware of the games our offense cost us. They cost of 5 games, 5 losses were solely on the offense.

01-05-2017, 08:06 PM	#2
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,853	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by spkb25 actually, outside of a few, people like yourself and Danno, guys that were completely wrong about this team, everyone is well aware of the games our offense cost us. They cost of 5 games, 5 losses were solely on the offense. Sorry, friend, but you are so full of ****. Love you anyway.

01-05-2017, 08:09 PM	#3
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Sorry, friend, but you are so full of ****. Love you anyway. Unfortunately you have offered nothing substantial. It is more than clear those 5 games were loss by the offense and it has already been proven.

01-05-2017, 08:13 PM	#4
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,853	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by spkb25 actually, outside of a few, people like yourself and Danno, guys that were completely wrong about this team, everyone is well aware of the games our offense cost us. They cost of 5 games, 5 losses were solely on the offense. What part of the obvious concept of if the defense and special teams were not so horrible, average mistakes by the offense that that happen to all teams would not have been game changing? For example, Ingram had two fumbles all season. You blame two loses on him. Dallas' Elliot had FIVE fumbles but there defense and special teams made them less of an impact.

01-05-2017, 08:14 PM	#5
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,145	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by AsylumGuido What part of the obvious concept of if the defense and special teams were not so horrible, average mistakes by the offense that that happen to all teams would not have been game changing? For example, Ingram had two fumbles all season. You blame two loses on him. Dallas' Elliot had FIVE fumbles but there defense and special teams made them less of an impact. 4 turnovers in a game with 1 inside your 40 and 2 inside your 30 rates as average now, I wasn't aware. Nice one That's a nice bait and switch, but the offense was responsible for those 5 losses and reasons have already been stated. If you want to attack some of what I wrote as it pertains to those 5 games go for it.

01-05-2017, 08:24 PM	#6
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,853	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by spkb25 4 turnovers in a game with 1 inside your 40 and 2 inside your 30 rates as average now, I wasn't aware. Nice one That's a nice bait and switch, but the offense was responsible for those 5 losses and reasons have already been stated. If you want to attack some of what I wrote as it pertains to those 5 games go for it. Those same things happen to teams with decent defenses and special teams all the time, but they don't lose. You are getting irrational.

01-05-2017, 08:32 PM	#7
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,560	Re: Vitt, Johnson, McMahon, Kwan, Willis FIRED Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Those same things happen to teams with decent defenses and special teams all the time, but they don't lose. You are getting irrational. And our defense played decent versus Denver racking up 6 sacks and 2 interceptions, especially considering the offense put them in awful positions. So the offense is to blame for the Denver loss. spkb25 likes this.

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