This is a decent aricle

jnormand · 01-07-2017, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by spkb25

This demonstrates exactly what I and a few other posters were trying to say. Defense certainly not good enough, ST not good enough, but the offense had it a hand in losing this year too.

"Drew Brees and Co. produced 234 points in the six games against teams with losing records, a 39-point per game average. But the offense came back down to earth against most of the schedule. The Saints scored 235 points in the 10 games against teams finishing with winning records, a 23.5-point per game average. That's essentially middle of the pack in the NFL."

Saints were stuck in neutral, and no one can escape blame | NOLA.com

Ok. I see your point here. And it's a good point. And I agree that the offense needs to shoulder some blame as well. Some.

But wouldn't it be kind of obvious that a team will score less against a better team? I mean we can probably pull up that stat for other teams too. Good teams. And they wouldn't score as much against other good teams right? Just playing devil's advocate here.

While i agree the offense had a couple of really ****ty games and essentially **** the bed, as you put it, ST and defense were atrocious.

My point is, there's room for improvement everywhere. But that defense suuuuuucks.

spkb25 · 01-07-2017, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by jnormand

Ok. I see your point here. And it's a good point. And I agree that the offense needs to shoulder some blame as well. Some.

But wouldn't it be kind of obvious that a team will score less against a better team? I mean we can probably pull up that stat for other teams too. Good teams. And they wouldn't score as much against other good teams right? Just playing devil's advocate here.

While i agree the offense had a couple of really ****ty games and essentially **** the bed, as you put it, ST and defense were atrocious.

My point is, there's room for improvement everywhere. But that defense suuuuuucks.

well that really depends, how much less are we talking, 11 points, 13 points, 20 points. I mean those are just terrible outputs especially when you couple it with multiple turnovers.

In '09 we played a 5-0 giants team and lit the score board up. We played the Patties with 3/4 of our secondary injured and lit the scoreboard up. No I just think our offense, although pretty good this year, and certainly better than the defense most of the time, they're certainly shouldering some blame this year. There were games, and more than just a couple where they put the defense in absolutely horrid positions and they did it multiple times. So yeah defense bigger holes, and ST bigger holes, but offense has some too.

01-07-2017, 10:16 AM	#1
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,760	Re: This is a decent aricle Originally Posted by spkb25 This demonstrates exactly what I and a few other posters were trying to say. Defense certainly not good enough, ST not good enough, but the offense had it a hand in losing this year too. "Drew Brees and Co. produced 234 points in the six games against teams with losing records, a 39-point per game average. But the offense came back down to earth against most of the schedule. The Saints scored 235 points in the 10 games against teams finishing with winning records, a 23.5-point per game average. That's essentially middle of the pack in the NFL." Saints were stuck in neutral, and no one can escape blame \| NOLA.com Ok. I see your point here. And it's a good point. And I agree that the offense needs to shoulder some blame as well. Some. But wouldn't it be kind of obvious that a team will score less against a better team? I mean we can probably pull up that stat for other teams too. Good teams. And they wouldn't score as much against other good teams right? Just playing devil's advocate here. While i agree the offense had a couple of really **ty games and essentially ** the bed, as you put it, ST and defense were atrocious. My point is, there's room for improvement everywhere. But that defense suuuuuucks.

01-07-2017, 11:04 AM	#2
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,144	Re: This is a decent aricle Originally Posted by jnormand Ok. I see your point here. And it's a good point. And I agree that the offense needs to shoulder some blame as well. Some. But wouldn't it be kind of obvious that a team will score less against a better team? I mean we can probably pull up that stat for other teams too. Good teams. And they wouldn't score as much against other good teams right? Just playing devil's advocate here. While i agree the offense had a couple of really **ty games and essentially ** the bed, as you put it, ST and defense were atrocious. My point is, there's room for improvement everywhere. But that defense suuuuuucks. well that really depends, how much less are we talking, 11 points, 13 points, 20 points. I mean those are just terrible outputs especially when you couple it with multiple turnovers. In '09 we played a 5-0 giants team and lit the score board up. We played the Patties with 3/4 of our secondary injured and lit the scoreboard up. No I just think our offense, although pretty good this year, and certainly better than the defense most of the time, they're certainly shouldering some blame this year. There were games, and more than just a couple where they put the defense in absolutely horrid positions and they did it multiple times. So yeah defense bigger holes, and ST bigger holes, but offense has some too.
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