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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; This demonstrates exactly what I and a few other posters were trying to say. Defense certainly not good enough, ST not good enough, but the offense had it a hand in losing this year too. "Drew Brees and Co. produced ...
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This demonstrates exactly what I and a few other posters were trying to say. Defense certainly not good enough, ST not good enough, but the offense had it a hand in losing this year too.
"Drew Brees and Co. produced 234 points in the six games against teams with losing records, a 39-point per game average. But the offense came back down to earth against most of the schedule. The Saints scored 235 points in the 10 games against teams finishing with winning records, a 23.5-point per game average. That's essentially middle of the pack in the NFL." Saints were stuck in neutral, and no one can escape blame | NOLA.com |
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Said it a thousand times and I will say it again
No matter how good your game plan is or how good your offense is, the best laid game plan will always goes to awry if the entire game, from opening kick off to the final gun is spent playing keep up. A team is behind the 8 ball if they feel they must put up points on the board on every drive. It is the recipe for self destruction. Football is more a mental game than most realize. Time to get back to dictating the the pace of the game and making teams one dimensional yet again. |
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Originally Posted by hagan714
certainly, but that simply wasn't the case the entire season. There were just games the offense completely **** the bed. They actually f'd the defense. Put them in absolutely horrid spots repeatedly with turnovers and/ or couldn't produce points.![]()
Again, we all recognize the defense and ST as the main culprit, but offense holds a good 25-30% of the blame and simply is not due to forcing it in those instances. There were games that forcing it and trying to do too much was certainly part of the issue and then there were games where the offense just didn't do enough or turned the ball over 2-4 times. Many of the turnovers were fumbles and not a result of forcing, just poor play. |
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Originally Posted by hagan714
The offense can't make that excuse in the games where they were at their worst. The defense showed up in all the games where the offense went silent.![]()
So while I agree in principle with what you're saying about playing catch up, it didn't necessarily apply to this team. When we only needed a decent performance from the offense, they were terrible. In games when we only needed the defense to have a slight pulse, they didn't have one. On average, the defense was obviously the bigger problem. But the offense had no excuse in those games where they completely disappeared. Add in the horrid special teams play, and the bottom line is this team couldn't find a way to play together often enough to win. They found ways to lose. |
If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Re: This is a decent aricle
Originally Posted by burningmetal
While the offense had no excuse, with an improved defense and special teams they can easily take us to the Super Bowl. Do you doubt that?
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Originally Posted by AsylumGuido
That wasn't the discussion. There was a specific argument made that the offense failed to show up in certain games, and some make the argument that the defense puts too much pressure on the offense. That is a logical argument in many cases, but my point was simply that it didn't apply to this team. My comment wasn't about how good or bad the offense is, overall.![]()
Are they good enough to win the Super Bowl if the defense and special teams improve? Maybe. That depends on just how much improvement we're talking about. Because the problem with this offense disappearing against some of the better teams on our schedule, is that if we're going to make a run through the playoffs, that can't happen. We still have to improve guard play, and I would prefer to replace Strief, also. It's an offense that's easily good enough to make the playoffs, but Super Bowl? That's a maybe, but not about to be easy, in my opinion. |
If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Re: This is a decent aricle
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Another solid post
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Re: This is a decent aricle
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That pretty much sums it all up. Well said. How much improvement is the key!!
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