The New Orleans Saints Should Let Dennis Allen Finish the Rebuild He Started

AsylumGuido · 01-08-2017, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

2 1/2 years if he makes it that long.

And why wouldn't he? If I was you I would be hoping he would be the long term answer rather than implying that he WILL fail. I have a feeling that you want to say that you were right. What would that mean?

halloween 65 · 01-08-2017, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

And why wouldn't he? If I was you I would be hoping he would be the long term answer rather than implying that he WILL fail. I have a feeling that you want to say that you were right. What would that mean?

It would mean our D failed again.Let the D underperform and I'll let you tell me I was right. No more excuses.

lee909 · 01-08-2017, 04:22 PM

Didnt want Ryan at the time wanted Romeo Crennel

CharityMike · 01-08-2017, 04:33 PM

I dont think anyone was happy with RR getting the gig. I am willing to give DA time to get us where we need to be.

AsylumGuido · 01-08-2017, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

It would mean our D failed again.Let the D underperform and I'll let you tell me I was right. No more excuses.

So you are apparently hoping that happens for your self satisfaction. That is exactly the response I expected when I asked the question.

I have never, and will never, think negatively about my Saints. I have lived and breathed the Saints since I was nine years old back in the summer of 1967 when my father was transferred through the Air Force to Louisiana and I discovered my new state was getting its own NFL team. At no point over the past fifty years have I ever denigrated the Saints. I have never complained. I have simply enjoyed the fact that I have my own team to SUPPORT day in and day out. I have received quite a bit of ridicule over the years because of my non dying support, but I never have and never will speak badly of them or theirs. Win, lose, draw ... I will never, ever stop giving the Saints my utmost, most fervent, support.

I will always continue to support everything about the team that I have supported wholeheartedly for most of my long life to this point. It is not personal toward you and others like you. It is VERY personal for me, however. VERY PERSONAL!

halloween 65 · 01-08-2017, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

So you are apparently hoping that happens for your self satisfaction. That is exactly the response I expected when I asked the question.

I have never, and will never, think negatively about my Saints. I have lived and breathed the Saints since I was nine years old back in the summer of 1967 when my father was transferred through the Air Force to Louisiana and I discovered my new state was getting its own NFL team. At no point over the past fifty years have I ever denigrated the Saints. I have never complained. I have simply enjoyed the fact that I have my own team to SUPPORT day in and day out. I have received quite a bit of ridicule over the years because of my non dying support, but I never have and never will speak badly of them or theirs. Win, lose, draw ... I will never, ever stop giving the Saints my utmost, most fervent, support.

I will always continue to support everything about the team that I have supported wholeheartedly for most of my long life to this point. It is not personal toward you and others like you. It is VERY personal for me, however. VERY PERSONAL!

I'm hoping I'm wrong actually. I just can't believe in Allen when there's no justification in his DC skills as a whole. I love my Saints and always will but in noway I have to toot the horn of a DC that has proven absolutely nothing and until he proves me wrong I want. I drank the kool-aid to many times not to wise up about our D. You can drink however much you want but the proof will be in the pudding. He's on the clock now lets just see what he does?

K Major · 01-08-2017, 06:02 PM

The Saints FO have money this off season to sign a legitimate player or two. They also have the #11 draft selection (hopefully more defensive help/edge rusher), and a healthy Rankins in year 2.

Anyone who expects top production from the mess Dennis Allen inherited is irrational.

halloween 65 · 01-08-2017, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

The Saints FO have money this off season to sign a legitimate player or two. They also have the #11 draft selection (hopefully more defensive help/edge rusher), and a healthy Rankins in year 2.

Anyone who expects top production from the mess Dennis Allen inherited is irrational.

I surely don't expect top production K Major but I do expect us to field a consistantly good D. I would never expect Allen to ever have a D ranked above lets say 22 but Brees needs much more help than what he's got over the years.

dizzle88 · 01-08-2017, 07:55 PM

Mike McCarthy of the Packers has led them to 8 straight playoff appearances

At the mid way point, they had more losses than wins. Next year is playoffs or bust for Payton.

spkb25 · 01-08-2017, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Mike McCarthy of the Packers has led them to 8 straight playoff appearances

At the mid way point, they had more losses than wins. Next year is playoffs or bust for Payton.

And watch the Pack in FA, they don't go after the big signings. They do like 2nd or third wave guys.

01-08-2017, 04:00 PM	#21
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: The New Orleans Saints Should Let Dennis Allen Finish the Rebuild He Started Originally Posted by halloween 65 2 1/2 years if he makes it that long. And why wouldn't he? If I was you I would be hoping he would be the long term answer rather than implying that he WILL fail. I have a feeling that you want to say that you were right. What would that mean?

01-08-2017, 04:06 PM	#22
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: The New Orleans Saints Should Let Dennis Allen Finish the Rebuild He Started Originally Posted by AsylumGuido And why wouldn't he? If I was you I would be hoping he would be the long term answer rather than implying that he WILL fail. I have a feeling that you want to say that you were right. What would that mean? It would mean our D failed again.Let the D underperform and I'll let you tell me I was right. No more excuses.

01-08-2017, 04:22 PM	#23
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,809 Blog Entries: 1	Re: The New Orleans Saints Should Let Dennis Allen Finish the Rebuild He Started Didnt want Ryan at the time wanted Romeo Crennel spkb25 likes this.

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CharityMike Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Mid City, New Orleans Posts: 3,556	Re: The New Orleans Saints Should Let Dennis Allen Finish the Rebuild He Started I dont think anyone was happy with RR getting the gig. I am willing to give DA time to get us where we need to be.

01-08-2017, 04:41 PM	#25
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,274	Re: The New Orleans Saints Should Let Dennis Allen Finish the Rebuild He Started Originally Posted by halloween 65 It would mean our D failed again.Let the D underperform and I'll let you tell me I was right. No more excuses. So you are apparently hoping that happens for your self satisfaction. That is exactly the response I expected when I asked the question. I have never, and will never, think negatively about my Saints. I have lived and breathed the Saints since I was nine years old back in the summer of 1967 when my father was transferred through the Air Force to Louisiana and I discovered my new state was getting its own NFL team. At no point over the past fifty years have I ever denigrated the Saints. I have never complained. I have simply enjoyed the fact that I have my own team to SUPPORT day in and day out. I have received quite a bit of ridicule over the years because of my non dying support, but I never have and never will speak badly of them or theirs. Win, lose, draw ... I will never, ever stop giving the Saints my utmost, most fervent, support. I will always continue to support everything about the team that I have supported wholeheartedly for most of my long life to this point. It is not personal toward you and others like you. It is VERY personal for me, however. VERY PERSONAL!
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01-08-2017, 05:53 PM	#26
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: The New Orleans Saints Should Let Dennis Allen Finish the Rebuild He Started Originally Posted by AsylumGuido So you are apparently hoping that happens for your self satisfaction. That is exactly the response I expected when I asked the question. I have never, and will never, think negatively about my Saints. I have lived and breathed the Saints since I was nine years old back in the summer of 1967 when my father was transferred through the Air Force to Louisiana and I discovered my new state was getting its own NFL team. At no point over the past fifty years have I ever denigrated the Saints. I have never complained. I have simply enjoyed the fact that I have my own team to SUPPORT day in and day out. I have received quite a bit of ridicule over the years because of my non dying support, but I never have and never will speak badly of them or theirs. Win, lose, draw ... I will never, ever stop giving the Saints my utmost, most fervent, support. I will always continue to support everything about the team that I have supported wholeheartedly for most of my long life to this point. It is not personal toward you and others like you. It is VERY personal for me, however. VERY PERSONAL! I'm hoping I'm wrong actually. I just can't believe in Allen when there's no justification in his DC skills as a whole. I love my Saints and always will but in noway I have to toot the horn of a DC that has proven absolutely nothing and until he proves me wrong I want. I drank the kool-aid to many times not to wise up about our D. You can drink however much you want but the proof will be in the pudding. He's on the clock now lets just see what he does?

01-08-2017, 06:02 PM	#27
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The New Orleans Saints Should Let Dennis Allen Finish the Rebuild He Started The Saints FO have money this off season to sign a legitimate player or two. They also have the #11 draft selection (hopefully more defensive help/edge rusher), and a healthy Rankins in year 2. Anyone who expects top production from the mess Dennis Allen inherited is irrational.

01-08-2017, 07:00 PM	#28
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: The New Orleans Saints Should Let Dennis Allen Finish the Rebuild He Started Originally Posted by K Major The Saints FO have money this off season to sign a legitimate player or two. They also have the #11 draft selection (hopefully more defensive help/edge rusher), and a healthy Rankins in year 2. Anyone who expects top production from the mess Dennis Allen inherited is irrational. I surely don't expect top production K Major but I do expect us to field a consistantly good D. I would never expect Allen to ever have a D ranked above lets say 22 but Brees needs much more help than what he's got over the years.

01-08-2017, 07:55 PM	#29
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,359	Re: The New Orleans Saints Should Let Dennis Allen Finish the Rebuild He Started Mike McCarthy of the Packers has led them to 8 straight playoff appearances At the mid way point, they had more losses than wins. Next year is playoffs or bust for Payton. spkb25 likes this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: The New Orleans Saints Should Let Dennis Allen Finish the Rebuild He Started Originally Posted by dizzle88 Mike McCarthy of the Packers has led them to 8 straight playoff appearances At the mid way point, they had more losses than wins. Next year is playoffs or bust for Payton. And watch the Pack in FA, they don't go after the big signings. They do like 2nd or third wave guys. dizzle88 likes this.

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