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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by spkb25 And watch the Pack in FA, they don't go after the big signings. They do like 2nd or third wave guys. Your right. I work over in Wisconsin all the time and some of the nut ...

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Old 01-08-2017, 08:52 PM   #31
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And watch the Pack in FA, they don't go after the big signings. They do like 2nd or third wave guys.
Your right. I work over in Wisconsin all the time and some of the nut jobs(packer diehards) talk about the way McCarthy and Thopson draft and pick players for depth all the time.
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Your right. I work over in Wisconsin all the time and some of the nut jobs(packer diehards) talk about the way McCarthy and Thopson draft and pick players for depth all the time.
Yep, the homer's up here can be insufferable but obviously the Packers are doing something right.
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Old 01-08-2017, 11:48 PM   #33
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There was a good reason Denver and Oakland hired him, even though we was one of the youngest in the league at that time. He was only 38 years old when Denver made him their DC, and 39 years old when Oakland made him a HC. Thats barely out of diapers as far as NFL coaches go.

He has a lot of potential to become a great HC one day. A few more years of seasoning with Payton and Company and I could see him becoming a great HC one day and perhaps even our next HC.
I don't necessarily think that because someone gets hired at a young age that it means they have great potential. I think it's just become more of a trend to hire young coaches who can "relate" to this generation of spoiled young athletes. As far as their qualifications, too much is often made of short term results that position coaches get, without considering the talent they had at their disposal.

We had a good secondary when Allen was here the first time, but we had a lot of talent at DB back then. I've never been sold on Allen as a teacher, or schemer. Let's not forget that Oakland also hired Lane Kiffin to be their head coach. Denver hired Josh Mcdaniels as head coach at an extremely young age as well. He had that one year and hasn't had a head job since. A lot of coordinators look great working under Bill Belichick, only to go elsewhere and either flop, or be the epitome of average.

That's why I hope whichever new assistants are hired are people with a track record of repeated success, and who players can vouch for as being a positive influence on their development. Not just some hot new names who haven't proven they can build anything.

If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.
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Old 01-09-2017, 02:04 AM   #34
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Re: The New Orleans Saints Should Let Dennis Allen Finish the Rebuild He Started

For the record, I'm not against hiring young coaches, so long as they fit the necessary criteria and have that track record established. Some guys get a head start and are able to establish themselves at a pretty young age. Then there are these guys who basically ride the coattails of a great coach, or really good personnel, and parlay that into a job they aren't ready for.
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Old 01-09-2017, 07:00 AM   #35
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I think the biggest need on the team is DE and keeping our DT. I think Defense can be middle of the pack next year and with our WR having one more year and with our top five LT in the NFL back we are playoff bound.
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