The New Orleans Saints Should Let Dennis Allen Finish the Rebuild He Started

SaintFanInATLHELL · 01-08-2017, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by SmashMouth

He's in the waning years of hid catching career. He has a ring already as DC. He has stated he wants to stay in Denver. But if he does not, why not have him come in and help with Allen in charge? And why not adapt a system to fit the players at hand?

Because Phillips has his system that's he's been running for nearly 30 years. As you stated he's on the back end of career. So why bother with having to share responsibility with someone who does not share philosophy and doesn't have the personnel to implement. You get exactly the same mess that you saw at the beginning of 2015 with Allen and Ryan.

In short there is no upside for Phillips. I am pretty certain his first thought would be: "I'm too old for this ****."

What is Allen doing with Anthony, a LB that was practically ROY?

Different issue. Allen wasn't involved with the Anthony pick. So Anthony isn't Allen's guy. And of course Vitt was coaching the linebackers, of which none have been properly developed. I was thinking about the fact that all the productive linebackers the Saints have had in the last 10 years came from elsewhere. Vilma, Fujita, Shanle. Even Ellerbe and Robinson now. None were drafted by us.

Honestly, if folks simply labeled these thoughts as wishful thinking, I'd probably leave them alone. But since it seems that getting Phillips in here is being seriously pitched, then I have to ask what's in it for Phillips? I cannot see any upside for him.

SFIAH

01-08-2017, 12:54 PM	#9
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,787	Re: The New Orleans Saints Should Let Dennis Allen Finish the Rebuild He Started Originally Posted by SmashMouth He's in the waning years of hid catching career. He has a ring already as DC. He has stated he wants to stay in Denver. But if he does not, why not have him come in and help with Allen in charge? And why not adapt a system to fit the players at hand? Because Phillips has his system that's he's been running for nearly 30 years. As you stated he's on the back end of career. So why bother with having to share responsibility with someone who does not share philosophy and doesn't have the personnel to implement. You get exactly the same mess that you saw at the beginning of 2015 with Allen and Ryan. In short there is no upside for Phillips. I am pretty certain his first thought would be: "I'm too old for this ****." What is Allen doing with Anthony, a LB that was practically ROY? Different issue. Allen wasn't involved with the Anthony pick. So Anthony isn't Allen's guy. And of course Vitt was coaching the linebackers, of which none have been properly developed. I was thinking about the fact that all the productive linebackers the Saints have had in the last 10 years came from elsewhere. Vilma, Fujita, Shanle. Even Ellerbe and Robinson now. None were drafted by us. Honestly, if folks simply labeled these thoughts as wishful thinking, I'd probably leave them alone. But since it seems that getting Phillips in here is being seriously pitched, then I have to ask what's in it for Phillips? I cannot see any upside for him. SFIAH AsylumGuido and K Major like this.
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