New Orleans Saints: The case for one more year of Jairus Byrd

01-10-2017, 12:08 AM

The whole article falls apart at the end.

"Bell is not ready right now.*

Why can he not be ready by week one of next season?

Byrd's injuries may have been the reason and scheme may have been the reason.

He hasn't performed well at all.

Reasons are irrelevant at this point.

I could be wrong and if the Saints keep him, I hope that I am.

spkb25 · 01-10-2017, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by K Major

It's been stated before but financially and from a field stand point it would be beneficial to keep (pay restructure) Byrd another year. Then when 2018 rolls around, cut bait if you so choose to do so.

Vonn Bell isn't ready.

I don't think Vonn is ready yet either. I would like to keep Byrd for one more season, but it would be far better for him and the Saints if we can restructure him. If not he has to recognize this will be his final season in New Orleans. What would he command on the open market? 30+ year old Safety that was hurt the better part of two years. I think a restructure would be best, if not then we have to ddeal with it for one more year and then cut him. He had 82 tackles this year which was third most in his career.

spkb25 · 01-10-2017, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

The whole article falls apart at the end.

"Bell is not ready right now.*

Why can he not be ready by week one of next season?

well that's a gamble, but we could cut Byrd later if we think he will be. I don't want to gamble on the d side of the ball again

I think you nailed it though, do our absolute best to restructure him.

AsylumGuido · 01-10-2017, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

The whole article falls apart at the end.

"Bell is not ready right now.*

Why can he not be ready by week one of next season?

Byrd's injuries may have been the reason and scheme may have been the reason.

He hasn't performed well at all.

Reasons are irrelevant at this point.

I could be wrong and if the Saints keep him, I hope that I am.

He was one of our highest rated defensive players this season. Cam Jordan may be the only player on that side of the ball that played better since he came back from that week three benching.

Rugby Saint II · 01-10-2017, 04:17 PM

The defense plays better when we play the three safety set. That is probably worth keeping him next year. However, if we can develop some LB'ers with new coaching then we might be able to play more traditionally and go back to a 4-3 vs a 4-2-5.

RockyMountainSaint · 01-11-2017, 12:59 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

He was one of our highest rated defensive players this season. Cam Jordan may be the only player on that side of the ball that played better since he came back from that week three benching.

I did over-generalize when I stated that he hasn't played well at all.

He did play well in one stretch over three years.

We are both correct.

However, his longer stretches of poor performance when he was on the field, coupled with his absence, makes me wary when looking at his entire tenure as a Saint.

My family met him in public last year.
He was gracious and giving of his personal time with my children.
I really love the dude for that.
He is aces in our household.

I have no axe to grind with the man personally.
Quite the opposite.

AsylumGuido · 01-11-2017, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint

I did over-generalize when I stated that he hasn't played well at all.

He did play well in one stretch over three years.

We are both correct.

However, his longer stretches of poor performance when he was on the field, coupled with his absence, makes me wary when looking at his entire tenure as a Saint.

My family met him in public last year.
He was gracious and giving of his personal time with my children.
I really love the dude for that.
He is aces in our household.

I have no axe to grind with the man personally.
Quite the opposite.

I understand, but I base my thoughts about his future value on his most recent past, the only period of time he has been fully healthy since arriving in New Orleans. Then again, I always expect the best. It is healthier for me.

st thomas · 01-11-2017, 09:10 AM

its a no-brainer guys byrd is ours for the forseeable future to me anyway, we got this dude finally getting his name called in 3 seasons and possibly his healthiest in them years, so why give him away to make new englands all pro team thats where our duds land up right.

The Dude · 01-11-2017, 10:23 AM

We have already paid for him this long, why not one more. He started to really turn it on later in the season. We will need to fill his void by signing another layer anyway.

ScottF · 01-11-2017, 10:51 AM

Really just basic math. Cut him and you get 3.7 to play with, but are saddled with $8 million dead.
He won't earn his $11.7 this year, but that mistake was made 3 years ago, and there is no reason to make another mistake now.
He did have 80+ tackles, so it looks like he is finally healthy and getting it.

01-10-2017, 12:08 AM	#11
Threaded by RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073 Rating: (0 votes - average) The whole article falls apart at the end. "Bell is not ready right now.* Why can he not be ready by week one of next season? Byrd's injuries may have been the reason and scheme may have been the reason. He hasn't performed well at all. Reasons are irrelevant at this point. I could be wrong and if the Saints keep him, I hope that I am.
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01-10-2017, 06:12 AM	#12
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: New Orleans Saints: The case for one more year of Jairus Byrd Originally Posted by K Major It's been stated before but financially and from a field stand point it would be beneficial to keep (pay restructure) Byrd another year. Then when 2018 rolls around, cut bait if you so choose to do so. Vonn Bell isn't ready. I don't think Vonn is ready yet either. I would like to keep Byrd for one more season, but it would be far better for him and the Saints if we can restructure him. If not he has to recognize this will be his final season in New Orleans. What would he command on the open market? 30+ year old Safety that was hurt the better part of two years. I think a restructure would be best, if not then we have to ddeal with it for one more year and then cut him. He had 82 tackles this year which was third most in his career. K Major likes this.
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01-10-2017, 06:14 AM	#13
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,097	Re: New Orleans Saints: The case for one more year of Jairus Byrd Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint The whole article falls apart at the end. "Bell is not ready right now.* Why can he not be ready by week one of next season? well that's a gamble, but we could cut Byrd later if we think he will be. I don't want to gamble on the d side of the ball again I think you nailed it though, do our absolute best to restructure him. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

01-10-2017, 09:07 AM	#14
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: New Orleans Saints: The case for one more year of Jairus Byrd Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint The whole article falls apart at the end. "Bell is not ready right now.* Why can he not be ready by week one of next season? Byrd's injuries may have been the reason and scheme may have been the reason. He hasn't performed well at all. Reasons are irrelevant at this point. I could be wrong and if the Saints keep him, I hope that I am. He was one of our highest rated defensive players this season. Cam Jordan may be the only player on that side of the ball that played better since he came back from that week three benching. SmashMouth likes this.

01-10-2017, 04:17 PM	#15
Rugby Saint II Bounty Money $$$ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 5800 Airline Dr. Metairie, LA. Posts: 24,052	Re: New Orleans Saints: The case for one more year of Jairus Byrd The defense plays better when we play the three safety set. That is probably worth keeping him next year. However, if we can develop some LB'ers with new coaching then we might be able to play more traditionally and go back to a 4-3 vs a 4-2-5. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

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01-11-2017, 12:59 AM	#16
RockyMountainSaint Mmm That Smell! Join Date: Oct 1998 Location: Metairie Terrace Posts: 3,073	Re: New Orleans Saints: The case for one more year of Jairus Byrd Originally Posted by AsylumGuido He was one of our highest rated defensive players this season. Cam Jordan may be the only player on that side of the ball that played better since he came back from that week three benching. I did over-generalize when I stated that he hasn't played well at all. He did play well in one stretch over three years. We are both correct. However, his longer stretches of poor performance when he was on the field, coupled with his absence, makes me wary when looking at his entire tenure as a Saint. My family met him in public last year. He was gracious and giving of his personal time with my children. I really love the dude for that. He is aces in our household. I have no axe to grind with the man personally. Quite the opposite. Rugby Saint II likes this.
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01-11-2017, 08:17 AM	#17
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,220	Re: New Orleans Saints: The case for one more year of Jairus Byrd Originally Posted by RockyMountainSaint I did over-generalize when I stated that he hasn't played well at all. He did play well in one stretch over three years. We are both correct. However, his longer stretches of poor performance when he was on the field, coupled with his absence, makes me wary when looking at his entire tenure as a Saint. My family met him in public last year. He was gracious and giving of his personal time with my children. I really love the dude for that. He is aces in our household. I have no axe to grind with the man personally. Quite the opposite. I understand, but I base my thoughts about his future value on his most recent past, the only period of time he has been fully healthy since arriving in New Orleans. Then again, I always expect the best. It is healthier for me. RockyMountainSaint likes this.

01-11-2017, 09:10 AM	#18
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: New Orleans Saints: The case for one more year of Jairus Byrd its a no-brainer guys byrd is ours for the forseeable future to me anyway, we got this dude finally getting his name called in 3 seasons and possibly his healthiest in them years, so why give him away to make new englands all pro team thats where our duds land up right. ScottF likes this.

01-11-2017, 10:23 AM	#19
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,048	Re: New Orleans Saints: The case for one more year of Jairus Byrd We have already paid for him this long, why not one more. He started to really turn it on later in the season. We will need to fill his void by signing another layer anyway.
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01-11-2017, 10:51 AM	#20
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: New Orleans Saints: The case for one more year of Jairus Byrd Really just basic math. Cut him and you get 3.7 to play with, but are saddled with $8 million dead. He won't earn his $11.7 this year, but that mistake was made 3 years ago, and there is no reason to make another mistake now. He did have 80+ tackles, so it looks like he is finally healthy and getting it. SaintFanInATLHELL, Danno and K Major like this.

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