Spags D

arsaint · 01-08-2017, 05:35 PM

How did he get Giants D from hot garbage to this in one year???

K Major · 01-08-2017, 05:50 PM

Originally Posted by arsaint

How did he get Giants D from hot garbage to this in one year???

The Giants purchased a defense last off season.

Talent matters.

halloween 65 · 01-08-2017, 05:59 PM

It's not the first time Spags has put together a good D.

K Major · 01-08-2017, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

It's not the first time Spags has put together a good D.

He's coaching well this year because he has the best secondary/DL combo in the entire league (outside of Denver) and almost none of them were developed by Spags. Shocker.

The guy is not a good coach unless he's in an absolute perfect situation. Good coaches don't produce 32nd ranked defenses with decent talent and we had decent talent in 2012.

spkb25 · 01-08-2017, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

He's coaching well this year because he has the best secondary/DL combo in the entire league (outside of Denver) and almost none of them were developed by Spags. Shocker.

The guy is not a good coach unless he's in an absolute perfect situation. Good coaches don't produce 32nd ranked defenses with decent talent and we had decent talent in 2012.

Prob and Corey white were starting. in '14 and '15 we were 32nd as well, and 25th this year. I am going to go ahead and say it wasn't spags.

K Major · 01-08-2017, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

Prob and Corey white were starting. in '14 and '15 we were 32nd as well, and 25th this year. I am going to go ahead and say it wasn't spags.

I was referring to the Giants. They were the ranked #32nd in total defense last year

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spkb25 · 01-08-2017, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

I was referring to the Giants. They were the ranked #32nd in total defense last year .

Got ya, IDK because they may have had injuries or been adjusting to his scheme. I wish we had given him a year or two more to make a difference

ChrisXVI · 01-08-2017, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by K Major

The Giants purchased a defense last off season.

Talent matters.

Sadly we opted to spend big on Coby Fleener instead of following suit.

Danno · 01-08-2017, 08:19 PM

Spend on the Front 7, can't go wrong. Although they just got their ass handed to them by the Packers
The Packers defense isn't much better than ours

dizzle88 · 01-08-2017, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Spend on the Front 7, can't go wrong. Although they just got their ass handed to them by the Packers
The Packers defense isn't much better than ours

Unfortunately for us, it seems the Packers have a strength and conditioning coach who is actually good at his job.

Either that or since signing Brees, our FO get some kind of kick out of signing often injured players.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Spags D Originally Posted by arsaint How did he get Giants D from hot garbage to this in one year??? The Giants purchased a defense last off season. Talent matters. Halo, RockyMountainSaint, hagan714 and 2 others like this.

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K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Spags D Originally Posted by halloween 65 It's not the first time Spags has put together a good D. He's coaching well this year because he has the best secondary/DL combo in the entire league (outside of Denver) and almost none of them were developed by Spags. Shocker. The guy is not a good coach unless he's in an absolute perfect situation. Good coaches don't produce 32nd ranked defenses with decent talent and we had decent talent in 2012. MatthewT and st thomas like this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Spags D Originally Posted by K Major He's coaching well this year because he has the best secondary/DL combo in the entire league (outside of Denver) and almost none of them were developed by Spags. Shocker. The guy is not a good coach unless he's in an absolute perfect situation. Good coaches don't produce 32nd ranked defenses with decent talent and we had decent talent in 2012. Prob and Corey white were starting. in '14 and '15 we were 32nd as well, and 25th this year. I am going to go ahead and say it wasn't spags.

01-08-2017, 06:27 PM	#6
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Spags D Originally Posted by spkb25 Prob and Corey white were starting. in '14 and '15 we were 32nd as well, and 25th this year. I am going to go ahead and say it wasn't spags. I was referring to the Giants. They were the ranked #32nd in total defense last year . spkb25 likes this.

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spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Re: Spags D Originally Posted by K Major I was referring to the Giants. They were the ranked #32nd in total defense last year . Got ya, IDK because they may have had injuries or been adjusting to his scheme. I wish we had given him a year or two more to make a difference

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Spags D Originally Posted by K Major The Giants purchased a defense last off season. Talent matters. Sadly we opted to spend big on Coby Fleener instead of following suit. spkb25, Rugby Saint II and halloween 65 like this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,359	Re: Spags D Originally Posted by Danno Spend on the Front 7, can't go wrong. Although they just got their ass handed to them by the Packers The Packers defense isn't much better than ours Unfortunately for us, it seems the Packers have a strength and conditioning coach who is actually good at his job. Either that or since signing Brees, our FO get some kind of kick out of signing often injured players.

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