Should receivers get paid by thier stats?

JKool · 03-19-2005, 05:27 PM

There are three problems here:

(1) Missing the playoffs by essentially a coin toss is NOT the same as missing it by being 4-12. The difference, as Whodi seems to point out, with these other teams (such as being 12-4) is that a team with a better record has reason to believe that they are in better shape with respect to talent and scheme than a team with a worse record. That is, they don\'t need to make as many moves, adjustments, etc. Thus, not making the playoffs and being 8-8 IS better than being 4-12 WITH RESPECT TO JUDGING THE TALENT LEVEL OF THE TEAM.

(2) Since this is a team game, it is VERY difficult to judge who is responsible for what - in terms of praise or blame. It seems to me NOT at all obvious what role Joe played in our being 8-8 in terms of praise or blame. Thus, I don\'t see that the argument, \"it wouldn\'t matter\" if he left is that obvious. I\'m not saying it isn\'t true, but I don\'t see that our not making the playoffs is evidence for that.

(3) One more time, W-L record is a TEAM stat and not an individual stat. Thus, I don\'t see how making the playoffs, not making the playoffs, being 9-7, 8-8 or any other middling number is evidence that any particular player is good or bad, expendible or inexpendible, etc. In the end, it will have to be a complex balance of factors - on feild performance, stats, general distribution of praise and blame over entire units, teams, and indivdiual players.

03-19-2005, 05:27 PM	#14
JKool 1000 Posts + Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,423	Should receivers get paid by thier stats? There are three problems here: (1) Missing the playoffs by essentially a coin toss is NOT the same as missing it by being 4-12. The difference, as Whodi seems to point out, with these other teams (such as being 12-4) is that a team with a better record has reason to believe that they are in better shape with respect to talent and scheme than a team with a worse record. That is, they don\'t need to make as many moves, adjustments, etc. Thus, not making the playoffs and being 8-8 IS better than being 4-12 WITH RESPECT TO JUDGING THE TALENT LEVEL OF THE TEAM. (2) Since this is a team game, it is VERY difficult to judge who is responsible for what - in terms of praise or blame. It seems to me NOT at all obvious what role Joe played in our being 8-8 in terms of praise or blame. Thus, I don\'t see that the argument, \"it wouldn\'t matter\" if he left is that obvious. I\'m not saying it isn\'t true, but I don\'t see that our not making the playoffs is evidence for that. (3) One more time, W-L record is a TEAM stat and not an individual stat. Thus, I don\'t see how making the playoffs, not making the playoffs, being 9-7, 8-8 or any other middling number is evidence that any particular player is good or bad, expendible or inexpendible, etc. In the end, it will have to be a complex balance of factors - on feild performance, stats, general distribution of praise and blame over entire units, teams, and indivdiual players.
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