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st thomas 02-12-2017 07:31 PM

Re: What the mock drafts are saying about the Saints' pick at No. 11
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 736507)
My short list at 11 appears to full of bama love and i hate bama

#1 player that appears to be the safest pick I would trade up for
Jonathan Allen DE/DT Alabama 6025 294 4.85 #93 Sr

#2 player that appears to be the safest pick
Reuben Foster ILB Alabama 6005 236 4.72 #10 rSR

#1 Freak that comes around once in a life time?
O.J. Howard TE Alabama 6055 251 4.57 #88 Sr

#1 upside player?
Marlon Humphrey CB/FS Alabama 6005 196 4.49 #26 rSo

wow u do hate bama lol.. i like your picks though

st thomas 02-12-2017 07:56 PM

Re: What the mock drafts are saying about the Saints' pick at No. 11
 
i'm going with BPA at de, we have to get jordan help which will help dbs in coverage and we can get a cb in later rd or trade up and snare at top corner in this rich and better than normal class of dbs. DES in my liking would be garret which aint happening unless we'd trade brees, out on that. barnett i'm not totally sold. Taco charley love the hgt. at 6.6 a little heavy for speed rush but 40 time okay. maybe my sleeper in rd 2 tanohh kapassgon. 6.7 290 4.72 . watch this pick carefully sol. thomas stanford jr. we should show love if he comes out. i cant wait for draft but loving everyones picks .

K Major 02-12-2017 08:33 PM

Re: What the mock drafts are saying about the Saints' pick at No. 11
 
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Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 736507)
#1 player that appears to be the safest pick I would trade up for
Jonathan Allen DE/DT Alabama 6025 294 4.85 #93 Sr

Trade up? With all of the talent in this years draft?

No way Jose'.

jeanpierre 02-12-2017 11:16 PM

Re: What the mock drafts are saying about the Saints' pick at No. 11
 
If Myles Garrett started falling to say to third or fourth because CLE and SF are pressured into QBs, then you could get into a crazy scenarios to move up...

You've got a friends in CHI GM Ryan Pace (3rd) & JAX HC Doug Marrone (4th), gauge interest in a swap of firsts & maybe send LT Terron Armstead for their 2nd round pick...

Kick Peat to LT and now you've got a high second round pick to find another LG - assuming you didn't sign BOTH a Right Guard (hopefully Kevin Zeitler) and a Left Guard in FA?

You've also created more cap room down river for Brees, Cooks, Vaccaro, and Breaux; and you push back money you'd have to commit to the O-Line for a couple of years...

Also consider the same scenario with the team formerly of San Diego to jump up to get Reuben Foster ahead of CAR, CIN, BUF, all teams that'd jump at Foster...

Garrett and Foster are turbo-charged, world changers for defenses and the only two I'd consider moving up for in this draft...

iceshack149 02-13-2017 04:30 PM

Re: What the mock drafts are saying about the Saints' pick at No. 11
 
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Originally Posted by jeanpierre (Post 736583)
If Myles Garrett started falling to say to third or fourth because CLE and SF are pressured into QBs, then you could get into a crazy scenarios to move up...

You've got a friends in CHI GM Ryan Pace (3rd) & JAX HC Doug Marrone (4th), gauge interest in a swap of firsts & maybe send LT Terron Armstead for their 2nd round pick...

Kick Peat to LT and now you've got a high second round pick to find another LG - assuming you didn't sign BOTH a Right Guard (hopefully Kevin Zeitler) and a Left Guard in FA?

You've also created more cap room down river for Brees, Cooks, Vaccaro, and Breaux; and you push back money you'd have to commit to the O-Line for a couple of years...

Also consider the same scenario with the team formerly of San Diego to jump up to get Reuben Foster ahead of CAR, CIN, BUF, all teams that'd jump at Foster...

Garrett and Foster are turbo-charged, world changers for defenses and the only two I'd consider moving up for in this draft...

I'd hate to get rid of one of the best LT's in league even though he seems oft injured and the Saints place more importance on the three interior linemen. I'm hopeful that of the ten teams picking before the Saints, at least five will pick offensive specialty positions (2 QB, 2 RB and 1 WR) giving them a shot at some great options at a front seven position.

And from what I've read, Jeff Ireland has been a calming influence in the draft room. Just wait for your player and see if a team wants to give up a bunch to switch draft positions. No more trade ups!

Lord_Saint83 02-13-2017 06:15 PM

Re: What the mock drafts are saying about the Saints' pick at No. 11
 
I've seen two mocks of us getting sidney wilson from florida. I know cbs there usually get drafted fairly high but are just ok in the nfl and is he better than hargraves when he was there? Also i like barnett dudes got a very high motor and good hand technique. i know he was average athleticism but i see bosa in him.

jeanpierre 02-13-2017 09:01 PM

Re: What the mock drafts are saying about the Saints' pick at No. 11
 
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Originally Posted by iceshack149 (Post 736658)
I'd hate to get rid of one of the best LT's in league even though he seems oft injured and the Saints place more importance on the three interior linemen. I'm hopeful that of the ten teams picking before the Saints, at least five will pick offensive specialty positions (2 QB, 2 RB and 1 WR) giving them a shot at some great options at a front seven position.

And from what I've read, Jeff Ireland has been a calming influence in the draft room. Just wait for your player and see if a team wants to give up a bunch to switch draft positions. No more trade ups!

Ireland sure didn't calm Payton/Loomis last year, twice trading up with two picks for one player (Actually they should've stood pat and waited to see if Vonn Bell fell and they wouldn't have had to do it again for Ony...

triman 02-13-2017 11:34 PM

Re: What the mock drafts are saying about the Saints' pick at No. 11
 
I see another Cam Jordan in Solomon Thomas the perfect bookends. we need another bad ass. LB also

K Major 02-14-2017 01:58 PM

Re: What the mock drafts are saying about the Saints' pick at No. 11
 
Anyone interested in Tim Williams @ pick #11? Is he ha 3-4 guy? Character concerns?

Thoughts?

K Major 02-14-2017 02:15 PM

Re: What the mock drafts are saying about the Saints' pick at No. 11
 
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Originally Posted by Lord_Saint83 (Post 736664)
I've seen two mocks of us getting sidney wilson from florida. I know cbs there usually get drafted fairly high but are just ok in the nfl and is he better than hargraves when he was there?

Lord,
Did you mean Quincy Wilson from Florida or Sidney Jones from Washington? Both are projected as 1st rounders.


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