STANFORD RB McCAFFERTY

SaintFanInATLHELL · 02-09-2017, 12:06 PM

The answer to the question is no. Just no.

The Saints have a player in Ingram that accounted for 1300+ scrimmage yards, 1000+ yards rushing, and a 5.1 YPC. And that essentially in a platoon role because Payton and Carmichael do not know how to actually have a feature back in their offense.

When you have a Top 5 offense and a bottom 10 defense, as always the focus for personnel should be on the defensive side of the ball.

The only exception to this is a stud offensive lineman, such as a guard. And even then the numbers on the guy would need to be all world to consider in the first round. Think along the lines of Zach Martin for the Cowboys.

We have already seen the formula for Superbowl success for the Payton regime. A Top 5 offense that rushes effectively and a mid pack defense that can rush the QB and take the ball away. Ingram and Hightower have two years of proving that they are an effective rushing attack. Defensively we really haven't seen either takeaways or sacks. So why is another running back even on the list?

SFIAH

halloween 65 · 02-09-2017, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by frydaddy

I wouldn't mind having him, but not at 11, and I don't think he lasts till round 2. Considering there are a good number of elite prospects at the top of this draft I don't really want to see us trade back. Snag a defensive stud at 11 then trade back into the end of round one for him? Is he worth it?

Still don't know what anyone sees in Peppers. He's a great athlete, he's not a great football player. Not only is he a gadget player with no true position, he's a project who probably won't be ready to make an impact for a year or two at best. I would be crushed if we take him in the first. Brings back memories of SJB too much for me.

Peppers kind of reminds me of a sniper, you can line him up about anywhere and get the job done. Gadget player, yes, but extreamly good at it. Would allow multiple looks and the way Allen likes to blitz, we're going to need it. Trading Vaccarro for a mid 2rd to early 3rd for another D pick would ease alot of problems- OLB.

Seer1 · 02-09-2017, 12:42 PM

Why would we trade a proven player who has now learned not to tackle with his head for a mid round pick and a little boy like Peppers? His successes were from playing lower quality schools. He barely showed up against Wisconsin and tOSU. We need real linebackers and linemen!

halloween 65 · 02-09-2017, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Why would we trade a proven player who has now learned not to tackle with his head for a mid round pick and a little boy like Peppers? His successes were from playing lower quality schools. He barely showed up against Wisconsin and tOSU. We need real linebackers and linemen!

Glad you ask, Peppers could step in Vaccarro's spot day 1 and the pick we get from an overated Vaccarro could be used to pick up 1 of those lb.'ers or lineman you speak of, hopefully an OLB with it.

voodooido · 02-09-2017, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Glad you ask, Peppers could step in Vaccarro's spot day 1 and the pick we get from an overated Vaccarro could be used to pick up 1 of those lb.'ers or lineman you speak of, hopefully an OLB with it.

Would not consider KV over rated. He played really well last year considering we had no CB help. As for Peppers he could step in at that #3 safety on the field right away. I would trade back if he was the player I wanted. Dont see him going in the to 15. Just too many "ifs" on where he would line up.

K Major · 02-09-2017, 02:20 PM

Recent mock per WalterFootball.

https://walterfootball.com/draft2017charlie_2.php

frydaddy · 02-09-2017, 02:53 PM

I think Kenny is just starting to play his best football. As others have said I think he was having a good season last year. Yeah he gives up catches sometimes but I disn't see him get targeted much and that leads me to believe he's not as bad in coverage as some of you think. He plays with attitude, has good range, starting to take better angles and tackle better. He was in on a number of turnovers last year too. I think it'd be a mistake to get rid of him now.

foreverfan · 02-09-2017, 05:36 PM

FIRST ROUND SELECTION. I don't need anything else.

We need a play maker on DEFENSE that WILL CREATE MUTIPLE TURNOVERS
who has NEVER BEEN HURT IN COLLEGE.
POSITION DOESN'T MATTER.

If he doesn't exist on defense, then get the BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER
THAT CAN PROTECT BREES in 2017 and
EXCEL AT THE RUNNING GAME.

foreverfan · 02-09-2017, 05:53 PM

billyt81 · 02-09-2017, 05:57 PM

If he is really an elite talent, i.e., 4.4 40, strong, quick and fast, proveable at the combine proving worthy of pick #11. If there is anything that has been proven about the draft it is that you can't pick soley off of need. That type of thinking gets you Stanley Jean Baptiste instead of Jarvis Landry. If they think he's the best player available. Snag him. He'd look great in black and gold. One more thing. Am I allowed to say it'd be AWESOME to have a white tail back? OOPS!

02-09-2017, 12:06 PM	#11
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,773	Re: STANFORD RB McCAFFERTY The answer to the question is no. Just no. The Saints have a player in Ingram that accounted for 1300+ scrimmage yards, 1000+ yards rushing, and a 5.1 YPC. And that essentially in a platoon role because Payton and Carmichael do not know how to actually have a feature back in their offense. When you have a Top 5 offense and a bottom 10 defense, as always the focus for personnel should be on the defensive side of the ball. The only exception to this is a stud offensive lineman, such as a guard. And even then the numbers on the guy would need to be all world to consider in the first round. Think along the lines of Zach Martin for the Cowboys. We have already seen the formula for Superbowl success for the Payton regime. A Top 5 offense that rushes effectively and a mid pack defense that can rush the QB and take the ball away. Ingram and Hightower have two years of proving that they are an effective rushing attack. Defensively we really haven't seen either takeaways or sacks. So why is another running back even on the list? SFIAH Rugby Saint II and dizzle88 like this.
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02-09-2017, 12:25 PM	#12
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: STANFORD RB McCAFFERTY Originally Posted by frydaddy I wouldn't mind having him, but not at 11, and I don't think he lasts till round 2. Considering there are a good number of elite prospects at the top of this draft I don't really want to see us trade back. Snag a defensive stud at 11 then trade back into the end of round one for him? Is he worth it? Still don't know what anyone sees in Peppers. He's a great athlete, he's not a great football player. Not only is he a gadget player with no true position, he's a project who probably won't be ready to make an impact for a year or two at best. I would be crushed if we take him in the first. Brings back memories of SJB too much for me. Peppers kind of reminds me of a sniper, you can line him up about anywhere and get the job done. Gadget player, yes, but extreamly good at it. Would allow multiple looks and the way Allen likes to blitz, we're going to need it. Trading Vaccarro for a mid 2rd to early 3rd for another D pick would ease alot of problems- OLB.

02-09-2017, 12:42 PM	#13
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: STANFORD RB McCAFFERTY Why would we trade a proven player who has now learned not to tackle with his head for a mid round pick and a little boy like Peppers? His successes were from playing lower quality schools. He barely showed up against Wisconsin and tOSU. We need real linebackers and linemen!

02-09-2017, 01:12 PM	#14
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: STANFORD RB McCAFFERTY Originally Posted by Seer1 Why would we trade a proven player who has now learned not to tackle with his head for a mid round pick and a little boy like Peppers? His successes were from playing lower quality schools. He barely showed up against Wisconsin and tOSU. We need real linebackers and linemen! Glad you ask, Peppers could step in Vaccarro's spot day 1 and the pick we get from an overated Vaccarro could be used to pick up 1 of those lb.'ers or lineman you speak of, hopefully an OLB with it.

02-09-2017, 02:09 PM	#15
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,761	Re: STANFORD RB McCAFFERTY Originally Posted by halloween 65 Glad you ask, Peppers could step in Vaccarro's spot day 1 and the pick we get from an overated Vaccarro could be used to pick up 1 of those lb.'ers or lineman you speak of, hopefully an OLB with it. Would not consider KV over rated. He played really well last year considering we had no CB help. As for Peppers he could step in at that #3 safety on the field right away. I would trade back if he was the player I wanted. Dont see him going in the to 15. Just too many "ifs" on where he would line up.
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frydaddy 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Lafayette Posts: 1,950 Blog Entries: 1	Re: STANFORD RB McCAFFERTY I think Kenny is just starting to play his best football. As others have said I think he was having a good season last year. Yeah he gives up catches sometimes but I disn't see him get targeted much and that leads me to believe he's not as bad in coverage as some of you think. He plays with attitude, has good range, starting to take better angles and tackle better. He was in on a number of turnovers last year too. I think it'd be a mistake to get rid of him now. RockyMountainSaint, AsylumGuido and Lord_Saint83 like this.

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foreverfan 12,000 BS Posts Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Metairie, LA Posts: 13,457 Blog Entries: 5	Re: STANFORD RB McCAFFERTY FIRST ROUND SELECTION. I don't need anything else. We need a play maker on DEFENSE that WILL CREATE MUTIPLE TURNOVERS who has NEVER BEEN HURT IN COLLEGE. POSITION DOESN'T MATTER. If he doesn't exist on defense, then get the BEST OFFENSIVE PLAYER THAT CAN PROTECT BREES in 2017 and EXCEL AT THE RUNNING GAME. Rugby Saint II and Beastmode like this.

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billyt81 1000 Posts + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Metairie Posts: 1,129	Re: STANFORD RB McCAFFERTY If he is really an elite talent, i.e., 4.4 40, strong, quick and fast, proveable at the combine proving worthy of pick #11. If there is anything that has been proven about the draft it is that you can't pick soley off of need. That type of thinking gets you Stanley Jean Baptiste instead of Jarvis Landry. If they think he's the best player available. Snag him. He'd look great in black and gold. One more thing. Am I allowed to say it'd be AWESOME to have a white tail back? OOPS!

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